• That's not far from where I am.

    Although I appreciate that the harmonisation of regulations for a loose but large free trade area actually requires the harmonisation of law, which includes tax rules, and logically also eventually includes currency.

    There is a logical conclusion, and either it's a trading area that is huge with little in the way of trade, or it's not. Once you mentally walk down the various paths and see where they lead one ends up at one of the extremes... there's no middle-way, they all veer eventually.

    As I said on the day of the referendum, ultimately it's about the economy, hence I take one of the earlier paths towards a united and functioning Europe even though in some ways I'm a sceptic.

  • I guess there is a alternative middle way of standing still. Ie we've reached a sensible overall point in the EU life cycle and now we maintain it with minor prods and pulls.

    Also on your "clear mandate" point; listening to R4 this morning I now understand what you mean.

    Every. Fucking. Sound. Bite.

  • Yeah.

    How to make it clear that you have no mandate for anything important... claim you do at every opportunity and repeat it over and over for the press hoping that they say you do.

    A general election must be called.

    It could easily have been avoided if Cameron had stayed as PM, but he like many others wanted to dodge the bullet that is article 50.

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