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@Scilly.Suffolk
Why haven't you two offered an opinion? Because you don't know?
Same here. I do my best when I can (see the last page), but if my answer is "I have no realistic idea", then there seems little point in posting that.
Most of what ends-up here, does so because the usual methods don't apply (previous eBay sales, current RRP etc), so by it's nature the thread is full of bikes and components that are difficult to value and there are fewer people who can offer an opinion.
And don't discount the fact that, effectively, this is also a "For Sale" thread and no doubt there is some activity via PM.
As a case in point, I know someone on another forum who is after a small track frame, so I will send him a link to the Winter frame above.