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  • You can shift where the centre is but you'll never fundamentally change beliefs. Left and right is kind of an outdated concept of course, Britain is much more socially liberal than it was across the political spectrum, for example.

    The reality is that if Corbyn wins again you'll get what you want but you're condemning Britain to years more of Tory government. I think that's selfish.

  • You can shift where the centre is but you'll never fundamentally change beliefs. Left and right is kind of an outdated concept of course, Britain is much more socially liberal than it was across the political spectrum, for example.

    The reality is that if Corbyn wins again you'll get what you want but you're condemning Britain to years more of Tory government. I think that's selfish.

    Blairites have had a go and lost twice two general elections. The current crop of PLP approved candidates are all terrible and worse than Brown and Milliband. Angela Eagle come fourth in the deputy leader contest last year FFS.

    I'd argue putting a Blairite candidate is more selfish, they have a track record of loosing.

  • Ed Milliband was many things, but a 'Blairite'? Behave.

  • I'm not arguing for a Blairite candidate - note the bit where I said I didn't want a Blairite and they should move out the way.

    Eagle also voted for the Iraq war and anyone who did that is tarnished in my opinion and no good.

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