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• #427
That other bike seems to either be the best thing you've ever seen, or the biggest pile of shit you've ever come accross depending on what mood you're in. I guess you're in a bad mood at the moment.
Either way, it's not really got anything to do with this build.
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• #429
I'm with 7VEN. If the builder says it will take 3 months, you are going to listen to them. It shouldn't be up to the consumer to know better than the service provider. I'd be pissed if 3 months turned in to 18.
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• #430
Seems like (lack of) communication is the frustration here, not a complaint about the amount of time and effort put into it, or how awesome it will be when it's done. And think 7VEN is being fairly accepting of the 'it'll be done when it's done' timescale now.
It's fine for you and others with a lot more experience of frame building to come and say "you should be happy with 2 years" but I think it's fair enough to be frustrated at not being able to rely on the word of the maker. Contigency is one thing - sometimes things just take a bit longer. But this isn't just a bit. I work in design+make too (not bikes) and it's obvious client satisfaction relies hugely on expectation - whether of timescale or finished product - as much as anything else.
Sorry, I realise you don't want to get into a debate (nor do I, way over my head) but it feels like you're telling 7VEN that he shouldn't be annoyed (I think you should be happy if) which is kind of different to "in my experience I would expect this to take at least 18 months". -
• #432
Seems like (lack of) communication is the frustration here
We've all missed delivery dates, and in most cases it's not a big deal if we tell the customer before the specified delivery date that things have slipped. It's always a much bigger deal if we wait for the customer to call us to complain about it after the deadline has already passed.
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• #434
Oh yes!
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• #435
Wow. That looks so good, can't wait to see it finished and adventuring!
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• #437
So after all that discussion you decided to go brakeless?
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• #438
YYEESSSSS!! (I'm excited to see this finished)
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• #439
No face mask? Brave fellow. Maybe its an activated charcoal beard.
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• #440
Or water based paints?
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• #443
If you had it built with SS couplers you could have had a new year end built as your kid gets bigger.
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• #444
True, there's another on the way as well so could of made some modular triple / quad tandem as the family grows.
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• #445
Could be, although the colour coats don't look like it. Even if it was, I still wouldn't want to breath it myself. Still, each to their own.
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• #446
That looks beautiful!
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• #447
Aye, wouldn't do it without a mask meself, used to work in the printing industry, always wore a mask, no matter what I was working with.
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• #448
Colour is mazing - love it.
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• #449
This drying week gives you ample time to take closer pictures.
Cables go inside the ovalised bottom tube just behind the front BB,
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• #450
Cables go inside the ovalised bottom tube just behind the front BB,
and exit just in front of the stocker's BB ?
I'm pretty sure that's what we agreed. I'm heading up to Blue door to get a few things done on my planet x this weekend so if Matt's around, will confirm.
It's a tandem.
Look, frame builder knows best. They're the professionals after all. Aren't we all.
You tell me that it will take 4 months, I believe you. Tell me you'll be finishing it this month, I believe you. At some point when none of the stuff that you're told pans out, and in the midst of this going on, you have another bike built and when received, it isn't up to scratch, you loose faith in what's going on.
Tell me it's gong to take 18 months from the outset, then that's OK.