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  • I don't understand why it isn't clear to everyone that Corbyn needs to go.
    Britain is not a left wing country

    Because some of us want to change that. And to achieve that we have democracy, which is what got Corbyn where he is. I will be voting for him if contested because he represents what I want.

  • You can shift where the centre is but you'll never fundamentally change beliefs. Left and right is kind of an outdated concept of course, Britain is much more socially liberal than it was across the political spectrum, for example.

    The reality is that if Corbyn wins again you'll get what you want but you're condemning Britain to years more of Tory government. I think that's selfish.

  • Voting for a fairer system, better wealth distribution and better services is not selfish. Ridiculous statement.

  • The reality is that if Corbyn wins again you'll get what you want but you're condemning Britain to years more of Tory government.

    How do you *know* this? I'm not disputing, I'm trying to understand. I'm not sure. It's in the future, how can you be so sure?

    I don't know if Britain is or could be left wing but would it be so far stretched to ask people to support social welfare and healthcare?

    I could google it but I'm guessing you're likely to know - when the NHS was founded did it have popular support (amongst people/voters not just politicians)?

  • You can shift where the centre is but you'll never fundamentally change beliefs. Left and right is kind of an outdated concept of course, Britain is much more socially liberal than it was across the political spectrum, for example.

    The reality is that if Corbyn wins again you'll get what you want but you're condemning Britain to years more of Tory government. I think that's selfish.

    Blairites have had a go and lost twice two general elections. The current crop of PLP approved candidates are all terrible and worse than Brown and Milliband. Angela Eagle come fourth in the deputy leader contest last year FFS.

    I'd argue putting a Blairite candidate is more selfish, they have a track record of loosing.

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