EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

That's like watching a Year 10 student completing his first GCSE drama piece.

Badly.

So the next leader of the country will be short-listed by 330 people and then chosen by circa 150,000 others.

When the electorate currently stands at c. 46,500,000.

330 representatives and 150,000 members of a party that having been solely responsible for the most severe civilian crisis in our modern history and are now playing pass-the-parcel with the consequences.

And they'll get away with it because instead of religion, the masses now have the opium of social media: instead of armed insurrection and civil disobedience, we retweet and add an overlay to our profile pictures.

Vain, indolent and corrupt: the politicians reflect and ape us in order to grasp power; we shape them, not the other way around.

Brexit win was a horrible mistake though. It was supposed to be Boris positioning himself as the gallant loser who isn't afraid to have the courage of his convictions

So there wouldn't necessarily 'need' to be anything on Boris to get him to step down then?
He would be happy to 'loose that poisson chalice' surely?

I'm not saying there isn't anything on Boris to be had. Just that whatever it is could remain in the back pocket in this instance.

Daily fucking Mail back Theresa May for Tory leader.

Bet that was an awkward conversation in the Gove household.

Like.

Ha! Bet Dacre wasn't thrilled with his name in the letter. Seems a but early to be backing candidates.

I'm not sure Johnson is as done as some commentators suggest. The next Tory leader has an absolute Clusterfuck to resolve and, given the candidates, is likely to fail. He can then throw his hat back in the ring.

Yung Gove y'all know when the flow is loco

The next PM is Theresa, they decided already. She is the only one that has the capabilities. Also a woman in the lead is trendy now, Sturgeon Merkel are doing better than the boys... and the Queen will be well pleased. All this talking and 'leaks' to the newspaper is just smoke to take time while they preparing the plan for start the exit from EU. And that will be much longer of course, even because there will be a counterpart.

I'm only saying what I heard.

Theresa was the smart money favourite two or three weeks ago, to appear as the sensible grownup who could bridge the gap between the opposite factions of the tory party. I wouldn't say it was decided, because the world has gone mad, but she's certainly the most likely.
Someone suggested today that a face-saving way out for all parties would be to spend a year or so negotiating a complex exit deal, then going back to the country with another referendum, "This is the actual deal, if the country wants to, we'll trigger article 50 tomorrow morning. Are you in or out?"
Gives everyone a chance to calm down, gives the absolute die-hard brexiters another chance to vote fuck you Brussels, and gives everyone else a chance to actually make an informed choice with the consequences spelled out in advance.

Someone suggested today that a face-saving way out for all parties would be to spend a year or so negotiating a complex exit deal, then going back to the country with another referendum, "This is the actual deal, if the country wants to, we'll trigger article 50 tomorrow morning. Are you in or out?"

Which was Johnson's plan all along, but given that the EU have made it clear (entirely unsurprisingly) that they won't negotiate the terms of an exit deal until the Article 50 trigger is pulled it's a pretty fucking awful plan.

This sounds reasonable and a half decent way to get out of this situation. However, what we have learnt from this referendum is that the British people are stupid, it is possible to win a campaign on lies, no one gives a shit what experts say and the British people are stupid.

Even with a second referendum and an informed report about how the UK will be fucked if we leave, what is stopping the Farage’s and Johnson’s from unloading another bunch of lies, screaming ‘Sovereignty’ with every second breath and ‘migrants’ with the other? What they will also have this second time round is a detailed plan (even if that plan says leaving would be suicide) and the fact it has been a year since the people voted to leave and the government still hasn’t pulled the trigger. Farage doesn’t care as long as we are out and Johnson would be happy to win (and run for PM) as it was the ‘people’ who voted to cut off their arm.

If this is dragged out for a year or so any contraction on the economy will be put down to the fact it was going to happen anyway, that the government have been stalling on pulling the trigger and the EU wanting to punish us. Whatever shite the Sun and Mail print the people will believe it.

I personally have very little faith in the British people making a more informed decision come a second referendum. Parliament need to accept there is little way of wriggling out of this without getting egg on their face. Parliament need to vote on this.

Edit: Hope that didn’t come across as having a go at you (again, love your ‘from the inside’ posts). Just trying to say the suggestion made to you is generally sound but I don’t think a second referendum would get us out of this mess.

Indeed "the people" have spoken. Led on by their masters.

How not to democracy.

"Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see."

Unknown interim leader: Right Pob and Bojo, you two cunts are tainted now, because Farage.

You are both out of the running so Pob you pretend to turn on Bojo and you will both be seen to be unelectable.

Pob & Bojo: Thank fuck for that.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/01/europeans-invite-brits-to-relocate-promising-pubs-marmite-and-social-awkwardness

We also love weird breakfasts and social awkwardness.

To Hanover I go...

Sorry for being late.
The main FTSE100 has few companies that have any substantial reliance upon the UK economy.
Holders of US$ have just been able to buy shares in these companies at a substantial discount. Obviously US investors have US$, but so do the smaller Arab oil/gas states, and the biggest bucket of US$ are in the hands of the Chinese. The cynical could see the post-brexit vote slump in the FTSE100 as a subsidy to the Chinese to continue investing in the UK, with George Osborne as the main cheerleader.
The FTSE250, with smaller companies more reliant upon the UK economy has slumped.

No one remember the shambles that was the UK Border Agency,
hours long queues at UK airport Immigration for UK passport holders?
A prime example of the attention to detail and 'just getting on with the job' of ....
Teresa May.

an email allegedly sent from self important war criminal enabler alastair campbell to all round cocksnot kelvin mackenzie.

I should sign off more emails at work with 'F** off'

wasn't murdoch the back upon which the labour party piggied to get into power

surely campbell was in bed with newscorp ? ... well if not, at least blair was in bed with newcorps wife

Murdoch's got himself a new(ish) wank sock now though.

Tony Blair's always fucked who he wants.

My (negative) experience is that those who can forcefully imply 'fo'
without actually using those words succeed in business.

Bang on.