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• #202
Yup.
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• #203
He should be treated like the pariah he is. By his party and the PLP.
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• #204
Awkward.
(from https://twitter.com/kv654321/status/748098715102085120)
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• #205
^Whoops.
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• #206
“Hello Angela
At the CLP AGM on Friday 24th June 2016, delegates asked me to write to you to ask you to reject the motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn. The meeting was overwhelmingly behind Jeremy continuing as Labour leader. Your appearance on TV during the post referendum programme was mentioned. Your response in putting the question of his leadership aside to deal with the issues was welcomed. The idea that the Labour Party would rather miss the chance to capitalise on the splits in the Tory party by in fighting was not acceptable to members.
On behalf of the constituency I would ask you to make a clear public statement of support for him.Regards
Kathy Miller & Kathy Runswick
Secretary & Chair Wallasey CLP” -
• #207
it has the best, so far, explanation for the PLP's actions
It's a laughable, sourceless, splurge of paranoia. Ed Miliband has just explained the position quite eloquently on World at One. The longer Corbyn stays the more likely the party will split leaving the country without an opposition. The sooner the party gets behind a new leader the more likely we are to be able to form a government. I am worried that many will sabotage this out of spite, regardless of how their actions may affect election prospects. The problem is people who's fringe ideologies make protest a more attractive prospect for them than action.
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• #208
I am worried that many will sabotage this out of spite
The irony!
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• #210
Out of spite rather than a desire to make the party electable. There's a difference.
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• #211
Still waiting for evidence that Corbyn isn't (or at least, wasn't - the entire party may be ruined after the PLPs actions) electable.
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• #213
Also, the current PLP was elected by 9.3 million labour voters, who put their trust in the judgement of these MPs. The MPs judge Corbyn to be incapable of leading the party.
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• #214
Because the Labour Party has just made itself unelectable in its frenzy to make him unelectable.
It's a shabby, shambolic, toxic, failed mess. Shut it down, start again.
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• #215
That's actually a really good idea, you could start a new party, and all the frustrated, disaffected people from the fallout of all this can constructively channel their energy.
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• #216
Dated, but interesting. Look at the dates here, for example:
The collapse is long before Corbyn was leader, and in one case, results improved while he was in power.
How about some more recent reports, though.
April 2016:
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/04/08/camerons-ratings-now-lower-corbyns/
Historic tracker of voter intention:
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-2
Labour trails, but marginally. With the SNP in the position it is in, that's not an "unelectable" Labour.
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• #217
Because the Labour Party has just made itself unelectable in its frenzy to make him unelectable.
But, of course, that's Corbyn's fault.
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• #218
Anyone seen this "Tom Watson is the leader of the opposition" stuff?
https://heatst.com/uk/jeremy-corbyn-shouldnt-do-pmqs-tom-watson-is-leader-of-the-opposition/
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• #219
I don't think it matters whose fault it is by now... the damage is done.
[I like Corbyn]
On what ticket should a new party run seeing that proper socialists are tiny in England?
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• #220
Do you know who runs heatst.com?
Clue- it's Louise Mensch.
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• #221
Absolutely - there needs to be a leadership contest Asap.
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• #222
Yeah I know.
Well done.Was asking people what they thought, "constitutionally", wasn't asking for other facts.
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• #223
However, as far as I can work out, the PLP will try to drag this on as long as possible to continue to hurt Corbyn (as well as the party, but the first is what matters) in hopes of weakening him to a point where he finally gives up, or won't be able to win another leadership campaign.
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• #224
Yes, Cameron took a big hit with the Panama papers, and he and Osborne are percieved as part or the financial elite. The gains on opinion still leave labour a long way behind, though I'll admit they are gains. I'm still sticking with the PLP, who represent voters, and a broader section of society.
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• #225
More likely,
having botched two previous attempts, (Syria debate, on-air resignation),
and with the Referendum vote still borderline,
she and all the other plotters were having to hedge their bets.Labour: Even our coups aren't as good as the Tories.
Kenneth Clarke strolled into Thatcher's office in 1990, and told her to clear off,
before the 2nd round of voting.
He's representing his party's interests.
Whatever your feelings about him Labour could learn a thing or two.