EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Please let us know if your estimable old man gets a reply.

Very well said, that's all really for now.

Corbyn loses vote of confidence on his leadership. Loses badly. Has refused to resign.

Very eloquent, and very moving. Despite being only 38, I feel exactly the same way. I too despair. I really do.
The more people who write stuff like this to their MP's, whichever side of the argument they were on, the better. Leaver and Remainer MP's alike need to be reminded of the effect this is having on their constituents.

I think that this is something we really need to get behind.

The more people who write to their MPs and express this the better.

If we can get regretful leave voters to write to their MPs and reassure them that blocking Article 50 wouldn't be political suicide, even better.

And yes, it is very moving.

My Dad's not an emotional chap but he's very aware of how lucky he has been being born when he was.

I lol'd. Thank you!

What i want is some article 50 tee-shirts explaining how i feel,
i'm seriously fuming, and fucked off with politics, they can all go to hell..
time to get creative, and drop some word bombs..

172 for
40 against
4 spoilt ballots
13 didn't vote

oof

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I should add that my MP said in the House yesterday that as his constituents voted to remain, by a margin of 2 to 1, then he would reflect their wishes and vote against any motion to leave the EU. I'd already emailed him on this, but will follow up tonight to thank him for representing the wishes of his constituents.

To write to your MP:

https://www.writetothem.com/

twitter.com/presroi/status/74776­0537510027265

This thread is moving too fast for me so maybe this has already been covered, but surely article 5 of this is utterly unenforceable from a legal perspective. The referendum was advisory and not legally binding, and thus the UK government is free to chose whether or not to act upon the results. To trigger article 50 the moment that Cameron 'notifies the eu of the result' is lunacy. He would be perfectly within his rights to say "the people voted out, but we plan to ignore them and stay in" or more likely "the people voted out, but we haven't yet decided whether to accept their advice... we'll let you know".

Obvious IANAL clause...

Loads of really compelling reasons why the referendum result could be brushed under the carpet and never enacted, but none of what leading politicians are saying at the moment gives me any hope that it'll actually happen. Too much pressure to flagrantly ignore 'the will of the people'.

Here's hoping with enough time and pressure, that'll change.

Er...no. That's bollocks.

This is a momentous and largely unexpected outcome. Both major parties are in complete turmoil and no-one knows what will happen over the next few weeks. It is ridiculous of anyone to expect that we will say 'fine, press the button and let's get out'. There needs to be a period to work out if it's really going to happen, how it's going to happen and the process by which it is going to happen and there is no way any of that can be decided in three days. Nothing to do with 'breathtaking arrogance'. It is reasonable and sensible to take some time to work out what the fuck is going on.

anybody at Trafalgar Square?!

Christ, the footage of Farage speaking today is utterly sickening. I just cannot understand how anyone could identify with that horrific excuse for a human being. Desperate times.

Probably something to do with fact he was democratically elected by members in accordance with rules of party. the bastard.

my MP is Zac Cunting Goldsmith

ffs

Haha!

Can't say we weren't warned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament_election,_2014_(United_Kingdom)#See_also

Labour & Tory equally to blame for a 'whatever' attitude to the EU elections gave UKIP the breakthrough they needed.

first they came for the forrins:

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/first-poles-gays/

my MP is Zac Cunting Goldsmith

ffs

Vote ffs

I'm loving this thread, but feeling like it's a bit of an echo chamber and we're all reinforcing our current positions.

I quite enjoy cognitive dissonance so how about some arguments about why leave the EU would be a good thing, preferably from the most remain people here.

Does that make sense? I find its difficult to do but can help clarify ones thinking.

don't vote? don't get to bitch.

People will be able to buy duty free fags again.