• The referendum is not binding on anyone, let alone the HoC.
    A sensible PM would have put down some threshholds,
    minimum &age participation, minimum %age for/against.
    The Tories cannot claim they do not understand this,
    they just tried to implement such in the Trade Union legislation, I think is currently 'pending'. That Cameron didn't is on him, but also on us.
    Given that even the 'winners' are sad at having won, I would welcome a GE with the non-kipper Tory party and the (bulk of) the Labour Party campaigning for EU membership,
    against the racists and their fellow travellers in UKIP.
    With a clear split in the Tory party, and wavering Tory MPs reminded of Reckless's fate, it would be to Labour's advantage.

  • The referendum is not binding on anyone, let alone the HoC.
    A sensible PM would have put down some threshholds,
    minimum &age participation, minimum %age for/against.

    Sure, but they/he didn't. There's no point revisiting the terms of the referendum and wishing they were different. The result is, sadly, as it is.

    I'm all for MPs to vote against the legislation changes in the HoC. That would make me happy as I want to remain. I'm just saying it's unlikely that the required majority will do at the moment. Maybe it'll take a few more to come out and say that and then momentum will pick up. I do hope so anyway.

  • Sure, but they/he didn't. There's no point revisiting the terms of the referendum and wishing they were different. The result is, sadly, as it is.

    I've just taken this thread off ignore. Yesterday was the first time I've read any news or had any exposure to the debate since seeing the result.

    Like a lot of people I've been consumed with bile and hatred. Only now am I calming down.

    I could not disagree with you more. I don't see why Remain should take this lying down. The majority was slim. The Breix group lied. The impact on the country will be negative. We have a flawed democratic system and I see no reason not to exploit it for my interests and what I believe is best for the country.

    As andyp pointed out everyone in favour of remain should be lobbying their MP. Minority groups often have to flight for their interests.

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