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  • It is the zeitgeist,
    we are being told to 'reconcile with the anti-immigrant mindset' of the brextards,
    and that man-of-the-people Michael Gove told us we don't need to listen to experts.

    As I said upthread Keir Starmer should be an exemplary candidate,
    but not only has he worked in 'that London', he represents a London constituency.

    Are there any 'traditional Labour core' up-through-a-Union potential nominees from the PLP?

  • Are there any 'traditional Labour core' up-through-a-Union potential nominees from the PLP?

    This is what I'm wondering. I think Corbyn appeals to those who want to help the working classes and imbalances in wealth, but many of the working class themselves don't support him at all. Whether it's due to media bias, defence policy, immigration policy or him just appearing a bit 'weak' I don't know, but I can't convince myself that he's ever going to appeal to them.
    I really, really, really want him to appeal to them though.

  • Continuous ridicule from the media,
    and,
    the impossibility of boiling down, 'the 40 year Trickledown experiment has failed',
    and, 'Tory Austerity is not necessary' into a a pithy, (if ultimately demonstrably false), soundbite like 'Take Back Control'.

  • This is what I'm wondering. I think Corbyn appeals to those who want to help the working classes and imbalances in wealth, but many of the working class themselves don't support him at all. Whether it's due to media bias, defence policy, immigration policy or him just appearing a bit 'weak' I don't know, but I can't convince myself that he's ever going to appeal to them.
    I really, really, really want him to appeal to them though.

    Corbyn isn't perfect by a long shot, but it's sad that his policies are getting drowned out by PLP backstabbing and a hostile media.

    The continuing neo-liberal narrative amplified by a media echo chamber has working class people voting for stuff that's bad for them - austerity, leaving europe (cf Wales and Cornwall).
    Working class people know things are bad, but don't know why. Farrage pops up, tells them it's immigration, Tories tell them it's immigration, and even with Milliband at the last election 'getting tough' on immigration. No wonder they vote for right wing parties and to leave europe.

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