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  • As he's just said - he has a mandate from hundreds of thousands of people. The biggest mandate in British politics. There is little evidence that mandate has deteriorated.

    Is he supposed to walk away from that?

    Fuck it, I still support Corbyn's politics and no one has been able to show me why he (and not the persistent plotters) are a risk to the party. Until someone is able to do that, good on him.

  • I've got no problem with Corbyn's politics.

    My problem is that the referendum demonstrates labour's failure to engage with a huge part of uk society. Accept that, and we accept Tory rule forever (ok, with the rise of SNP and probable Scottish devolution, arguably that is already a done deal). However, the fact that Corbyn doesn't seem to recognise that he has really fucked up is pretty annoying.

  • Blame Milliband if your talking about the Labour Party and dis-interest / lack of engagement

  • My problem is that the referendum demonstrates labour's failure to engage with a huge part of uk society

    I can't see any way out of this for Labour. The Blairites abandoned the working classes (and Scotland) in favour of austerity policies, chasing the middle england vote and allowed the narrative to be dictated to them by the Tories, UKIP, and the media (Labour caused the financial crash, Austerity is needed, Immigration is a problem etc).

    The grass roots elect a leader who is anti-austerity, and his message is drowned out by continuing back stabbing by his own party, and by a media who don't want to stray from the neoliberal path. Guardian in particular had some awful articles around the time of Labour leadership contest, and seems to reporting the last days events with glee.

    If Labour do have a new leader, it'll probably be an ex-policy wonk/spod from this list.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/these-are-the-184-labour-mps-who-didn-t-vote-against-the-tories-welfare-bill-10404831.html

    I can only hope that the grass roots support for Corbyn shows that they can't carry on down the Tory-lite / Pro-Austerity path

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