• Sadiq Kahn campaigned with David Cameron. Blair campaigned with Major. Most people realised this was a bigger issue than their own usual political loyalties. And yet

    "pro-EU lines in Corbyn speeches were cut, his diary was scheduled to avoid Labour In events and any attempts to work with Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson and Gordon Brown were overruled."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-allies-sabotaged-labour-in-campaign-and-fuelled-brexit_uk_576eb1b5e4b0d2571149bb1f

    Hard-right Union leader on R5 just now saying "Jeremy always agreed with me over the EU, I think he should have stuck to his principles and campaigned for out" He went on to say Jeremy had the biggest mandate in Labour history and his leadership had been sabotaged by the media, which is cute but growing a bit tired.

    This chump needs to go. Hilary Benn has just left, probably taking half the shadow cabinet with him. There'll be a vote of no confidence at a PLP meeting on Monday, I hope we get a strong new leader soon, this is urgent as there'll probably be a general election by the end of the year.

  • The feeling in industrial north is so disillusioned with the labour party they would have done the opposite of what JC and party line was in protests. So may be we would have stayed in.
    I know think that the ideal solution would Norway type free trade but the EU would demand free movement this could be allowed but to appease the anti immigration voter they should not able to apply for benefits or council house. That gives no reason to hate them. Let them come here and work. Health care and educatiin, as a civilised nation should be provided free at the point of time.

  • Germany has set rules on benefits on eu immigrants you need to work a certain time to get them, and only get a year of benefits.

    So some measures are possible. But that leaves aside that eu immigrants claim fewer benefits and have more employment.

    Maybe the issue is jobs perceived / actually going to immigrants & wage lowering. Not "they don't work".

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