EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Depressing stuff.

I clearly don't think that over half the country are racists but the reality is that racists now think that have the country agrees with them.

Nationalism is real and it's out of the box, emboldened and enfranchised.

https://www.facebook.com/Post-Ref-Racism-205471743181923/

https://twitter.com/PostRefRacism

'Has Brexit put a downer on Glastonbury?' Most Guardian headline ever.

Technically xenophobia.

No doubt we arsehole will go "But I'm not racist I hate any foreigner!!"

I saw racism yesterday too. Absolutely no doubt about it.

I'm going to order them all:

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How many onion layers does a racist need to wear to allow the gullible to believe they are no longer racist?
NF, BNP, Michael Howard's 2005 General Election campaign,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Howard#Criticism_of_2005_campaign
(hello Lynton Crosby),
UKIP and finally 'Vote Leave',
each step brought every 'I'm not a racist, ..... but', closer to the mainstream of Conservative politics.

"Technically it's not racism, so..."

Have we all seen this - it's a petition to parliament for a second referendum:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

"I'm not racist but I have a lot of racist friends" sums up the brexit leaflets.

Of course there is a lexit who states the eu is racist for letting refugees drown. But they're not the most known campaigners.

I think? Not in Belfast.

Saw (and sign) this, it was 300,00 when I last checked, and now propelled to over 2 millions.

Would be interesting if the number exceed the Leave vote.

We also love curry and are not at all racist here in Scotland.

Can I have a passport?

The UK has had months to prepare for this fucking referendum.

The implications of an exit have spelled out pretty clear by the remain lot and if not perhaps it was because the didn't wholeheartedly believe what was on offer.

The public has spoken and reared it's ugly xenophobic head now deal with it.
It's a non binding referendum after all.
Just say thanks for showing up but the government thinks it's better to stay in.

If that cunt Farage gets into parliament it'll be the last time I set foot in England.

there's worse already in there. Someone was mentioning that Liam Fox could be the next leader of the Tory party (and PM).

All this oh shit commentary on the BBC and most newspapers also gets on my tits.

They should have had these discussions months ago, they were predicted by the majority of people who had a single sane brain cell.

Cunts, the lot of em.

I might have had a drink to many but I'm still fucked off at this whole situation.

Baby booming arseholes.

I wonder how much houseprices in Edinburgh have risen over the last 48 hours.

A girl interviewed on the radio this morning said she was apprehensive about going out into her street not knowing who may have voted Out and was reminded of the film Day of the Dead.

Interesting that it's not just the bed wetting children signing that thing then.

I think it will get debated long before then and the phrase sore losers might just come up at some point. If a 2nd one occurred it would have to adhere to the same standards set the petition and if it didn't I wonder how many referendums it will take to achieve the democracy level required. 5 Maybe then if it's still a draw we can can carry on and pretend it never happened. Or maybe start a new petition to get any remain vote to count even if remain wins it with 50.1% of the vote. Did you sign the independent London state petition as well?

The EU are waiting for us to leave and may well vote democratically to force us to submit article 50 quickly. The majority of people in our democracy want it. Everyone who signs the 2nd ref petition is still somewhere between the denial and anger stage of the end of a relationship. You haven't been dumped but Brexit has begun now because we live in a democracy. Time to deal with it not divide further.

So starts the blame game;

http://www.politico.eu/article/how-david-cameron-lost-brexit-eu-referendum-prime-minister-campaign-remain-boris-craig-oliver-jim-messina-obama/

The narrative is clearly going to be that it was Jeremy Corbyn's fault that Leave won, as he didn't commit to the campaign. Which conveniently forgets/ignores/deflects the fact that it was David Cameron's gamble that created this mess in the first place.

From the guardians comments section:

If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.

Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.

With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.

How?

Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.

And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.

The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.

The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?

Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?

Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.

If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.

All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.

Wonderful.

The narrative is clearly going to be that it was Jeremy Corbyn's fault that Leave won, as he didn't commit to the campaign. Which conveniently forgets/ignores/deflects the fact that it was David Cameron's gamble that created this mess in the first place.

On the ball again Andy. Just like Labour caused the financial crisis...

who wrote that?

Thanks for that link.
Corbyn learned one thing from the Scottish Referendum campaign,
associate with Tories and voters will not be able to distinguish you from Tories.

Every Labour elected politician at any level needs to repeat the mantra,
'Labour supported Remain at 62%, it was the Tories who lost the vote',
to avoid a repeat of the myth of 'Labour caused the 2008 crisis',
but do you think the Continuity Blairites of the Parliamentary Labour Party will follow the script?