EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • She's right, though: Corbyn contributed very little to this debate, probably because his views on immigration wouldn't help (unfettered). He's been a bit of a disappointment all round really, has Jeremy.

  • He left himself very open to accusations, it seems. If I were him I would have been careful to make sure I was seen running around the country and being seen to be doing everything in my power to convince and persuade.

    Maybe he did this and was just the victim of a media blackout conspiracy.

    If he didn't, he will go.

  • Oh, he's unelectable, all right. I like what he stands for but he's not particularly flexible and his views on defence and immigration, and probably on law and order, probably means he's too high risk for the majority. Really, it's only his economic policies that appeal, and even then the middle-classes will proceed with caution.

  • http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/senior-figures-in-remain-campaign-say-they-were-hobbled-by-number-10

    and indication of how Team CallMeDave were relying upon that media echo chamber that defected to brexit.

  • Oh, he's unelectable, all right.

    Well that's settled then.

  • He's leader of the opposition, his job is to look busy and question EVERYTHING!

    I quite like the guy but don't think he's PM material.

  • Ken L saying £2m was spent, and yes Corbyn was campaigning every day.

    I'm genuinely interested to know where and to whom.

    If someone knows please clue me up.

  • If I were him I would have been running around the country and being seen to be doing everything in my power to convince and persuade.

    I didn't see any of the pretenders to his crown doing the same though, did you?

    You might argue that as leader it is his responsibility to lead from the front, but it's just as strange that none of the pretenders used the opportunity to raise their profile in the way Gove and Johnson did.

  • If someone knows please clue me up.

    https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn

    His Twitter feed shows his movements quite clearly in the run up to the referendum. The Remain org will probably also have a schedule somewhere.

  • Maybe not all of "out" voters are racist, but:

    https://twitter.com/howgilb/status/746635713215668225

    These are hardly isolated - I posted a couple of examples in London above. This is a friends tweet from earlier today:

    https://twitter.com/MariaWNorris/status/746657391496798208

    There are calls for unity amongst the English, but where the fuck are the calls for unity amongst everyone - the responses from Johnson and Gove saying this shit is unacceptable?

  • The bbc news crew stalking him on video after the pig fucker announcement and him choosing to not say anything except good morning without a debriefing didn't look good to me. Stumbling through a gate at Westminster and walking off into Parliament looking slightly disheveled with his grey stubble, no tie on and in a non matching suit. More the dry cleaners wasn't open when i set off this morning than future leader sizing the opportunity in iconic moment etc.

    Would they have harassed everyone like that and how many others would wear a non matching suit on that day i don't know..

  • Last Saturday morning, i read in the Guardian that the Labour 'Better In' campaign bus was appearing at Ealing & Southwark. Wouldn't mind cycling the 9 miles, to I guess central Ealing, to see the Alan Johnson et al roadshow.
    Wonder what time I need to be there?
    No info on the Labour Party site, no info on the Ealing Labour party site. No one answers the Ealing LP phone line.
    So I did not attend.
    Phoned the Labour Party campaign line on Monday afternoon, (based in Newcastle).
    Was told there is no list published 'due to security', but was transferred to the London office. Was told invites were tweeted out. 'To who', 'People on the circulation list'.
    'Can I speak to someone with some management responsibility?'
    'I can transfer you to the Newcastle'
    'They transferred me to this line'.
    tl:dr
    Who knows where Labour campaigned,
    as the media coverage was 'Which shade of 'Blue' do you wish to hear about?'

  • Twitter is full of mentals. It can be strangely entertaining reading their stuff but it's probably best to just filter it out.

  • Sure, but what about when you get a letter through your door telling you to leave and calling you vermin? (assuming it's legit).

  • Name and shame. I don't want to do business with racists/xenophobes

  • Should be clear, those were people on here retelling what happened to them in the face of bigotry. No one to name and shame on my part.

  • According to a Trump supporter on Facebook (with whom I am currently debating) the UK voted to leave the EU due to our enormous Syrian terrorism problem.

  • Peter_Carter in reply to @clubman

    Great to see the Claud Cockburn reference, I suspect you were reading private eye in the 60s.>

    Yes, you're spot on there.

  • My misreading possibly. But that's a relief

  • Can I name and shame a coach driver than was on a day trip to France?

    School trip, with languages teachers that are French?

  • Quite clearly? There's like ten tweets a day - I've scrolled through quite a bit and so far found he campaigned in Aberdeen and Birmingham.

    I can't find any itinerary on the Labour website or the Labour in for Britain website.

    But then again I probably need to spend more time looking.

  • branwen in reply to @clubman

    Sad to have you back in such circumstances, but wise words>

    Thanks. I haven't really been away, but I've had to spread myself thinly recently - mostly for reasons nothing to do with cycling.

  • Which Brexit-supporting businesses can I add to my boycott list?
    Wetherspoons, obviously, Dyson?
    Don't buy as many digger/excavator/back hoe loaders as i used to, so JCB is easy.

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