• Labour will never do that. The parliamentary party is still primarily run by careerists only interested in their own advancement.

    They couldn't even do a deal with the lib dems in 2010 to keep the Tories out because they felt they'd be going against tradition by forming a government without bring the largest party. Now look where it's got us.

    Really wish voting reform with PR STV MMC setup was in the UK. FPP is a horrible system and undemocratic. Yes Farage and his ilk would have seats in England, but so would the Greens and other left parties, beyond the bloc of Labour. Actually representing the plurality of views of the electorate.

    The Irish embassy in London has reported a massive jump in inquiries for passports, has run out of passport forms (more on the way from Dublin) and yesterday had queues of more than an hour in the ticketed waiting line for the service desk.

  • primarily run by careerists only interested in their own advancement.>

    You mean Abbott, Mcdonnel et al? I think the new Labour leadership needs to be young, charismatic, NOT FROM LONDON, and preferably female. It's odd we havent ever had a woman elected as leader of the party. What makes me really sad is that Jo Cox would have been a great candidate.

  • Interesting how you quoted me but left out the word primarily from when I was saying that Labour is "primarily run by careerists only interested in their own advancement."

    So no they're not all like that, but for the most part yes.

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