EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

I have Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt's Oblique Strategies as my homepage and today was this.

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I'm moving to Sweden

If you want to get away from bigotry, racism and illogical views on EU membership, don't. Nowhere is safe. Although I don't think a Swexit referendum is likely anytime soon, probably everyone is watching this UK bizniz unfold in horror/amazement. Like a crowd outside a restaurant watching someone on the sidewalk slipping around in dogshit.

Fuck sake.

Marine Le Pen changed her twitter profile picture to a Union Jack and Geert Wilders joyfully waved it for the cameras. The AFD, Northern League and Golden Dawn are in a congratulatory mood.

70 years ago, we fought and defeated fascists and now, we're their role models.

My grandfather will be spinning in his grave so hard I expect he'll burst out of Australia like a mad drill anytime now.

If it worked for you then that is great but please don't assume everybody else has the choice. If the solution to severe problems in rural and run down areas is 'move to London' and was adopted by more people then we'd be in an even worse situation with bigger metropolitan divide in council funding and culture. Many people don't have mobility, or the opportunity to escape the close radius of where they were born.

This 'Independence for London' bollocks is the kind of smug, self-serving egotism which makes everyone hate the 'metropolitan elite', and feeds into the idea that London and Westminster don't understand the rest of the country.

Do me a favour, everyone who has posted that, call them a cunt and tell them that Manchester, Liverpool, South Cambridgeshire, Scotland, and the other 48% of the population also count. London wasn't the only place that feels let down, but this sense of superiority is even more insufferable than the people genuinely in a hopeless-seeming situation voting for something they hope can bring a change.

The same London that voted for Boris, twice.

i'm not buying this faux concern for our less fortunate provincial countryfolk - the leave campaign ran on a ticket of unfettered racism and bullshit, and the majority of people in those areas appear to have gobbled it up. fuck em sky high.

and fuck londoners that voted for johnson, twice.

As we're taking back control of our country, when do we quit NATO?

pretty sure this sentiment can be broadened to encompass anyone in the party this fat bimbling fuck claims to represent

It is very simple. If you are angry, if you are upset; don't divide the country.
Who called the referendum?
Who chose the date?
Who chose the terms of it?
Who tried to negotiate reform prior to it?

That gammon-faced, professional suit wearer who just slipped out the back door to skip town and collect his offshore savings and escape any muck being slung at a large fan.

you think we're not patently aware of that?

History will judge him for that.

But now we're in a mess and we need strong and wise leadership to navigate through it. Does anyone really think Johnson, Gove and Farage are the right people for the job?

No. I don't think the Tory party does either.

They're as divided over this as the country is.

Fuck knows who will stand. Fuck knows who will win.

https://waitingfortax.com/2016/06/24/when-i-say-no-i-mean-maybe/

When personal rights trampling, mass surveillance fan Teresa May is your best option....

Great to see the Claud Cockburn reference, I suspect you were reading private eye in the 60s.
Mind you, give the contrarian that he was I suspect he might has been a left wing Brexiter. THough did he not end up living in Cork?

There is a dearth of political talent in the UK. When you look around the Tory party and this "I'll stick with Dave and Gideon please" you know you're fucked.

If still lived in East Anglia( Kings Lynn , Wisbech) in a town where my prospects were limited and leaving was not an option then voting for Brexit would attractive. That said , it would not solve any of my problems.

conquistador, I've asked you nicely. Most people who voted for Remain and were passionate about it are going through the stages of grief at the moment knowing that it's finally over. And most of us are currently stuck on stage one: anger. Your happy go lucky, think of the future, we're all the same really-type homilies are not fucking helpful at this point.

you sound like you have your head screwed on properly - why?

Yes they are.

They were what you should have been saying before the vote. They're what you should be saying now.

You think anger and resentment is helpful?

Get over yourself. Turns out this vote wasn't about just you or LFGSS or London or the comfortably off liberal middle classes, it was about everyone.

The people who voted leave think you're a cunt, try to change that, not perpetuate it.

And if you think @conquistador 's posts are happy I don't think you're reading the same ones I am.

I'm still surprisingly angry.

I can see myself having a hard time when im back in Plymouth in a few weeks.

As a member of the 'the great unwashed'. I blame the system.

I read an anti Trump post a while back. Something like.......'the worse thing isn't that a man like trump may become president. The worse thing is that our education system is degraded such that we have produced so many potential Trump voters'.

i spent 30 years surrounded by entitled, racist arseholes. they don't change. this shitshower has merely emboldened them.

Tories are at blows but they are always quick to get a plan together and look like they know what they are doing, whereas in reality Cameron just winged it every time and got through it unscathed until this. Hopefully by Monday evening Corbyn is gone and in a few weeks there is coherent progress to a divorce. It is all to play for, maybe general election, maybe Labour will die or reform. Isn't it times like this that a new party emerges? This will be a good slap that ends apathy to voting. Everyone says what happens next, just wait. I'm sorry for my previous posts that have antagonised people like @BleakReference, I do just want to help and appease. I really do recommend just sitting down, a quiet cup of tea and a few moments of peace to yourself can do wonders, you may find you don't need to vent that anger. Of course you're perfectly entitled to vent, I'm not telling you what to do.

No no. Insular arrogance has failed as a tactic. Time to leave it behind and acknowledge the rest of the country.>

Well said!