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Peter_Carter in reply to @clubman
Great to see the Claud Cockburn reference, I suspect you were reading private eye in the 60s.>
Yes, you're spot on there.
Just as a matter of interest, not all the over sixty fives voted for Brexit - I didn't, and the only person I know who did was my daughter's grandfather in law (i.e. her children's great grandfather), but he is insane.
Just because the European bigwigs say they want us to leave quickly, they are not necessarily speaking the truth (remember Claud Cockburn's (google him) maxim: 'Never believe anything until it's been officially denied'). I think we can expect a severe economic spanking (devaluation of sterling followed by higher interest rates leading to unemployment and mortgage foreclosures; then, having been brought to heel, a second referendum (compare the Danes and Maastricht).
And this is my real reason for bothering to post: The Labour Party comes out of this very badly. I am a former member and Labour Councillor (1994-98), but I believe the party should now wind itself up. The last time Labour actually did any good was the 1966-70 government when H.Wilson managed to resist US demands for support in Vietnam (compare T. Blair /Iraq).
The Tories have never recently achieved a majority vote in general elections, so it is clear that most voters don't want them. Labour has made a terrible mess of things and has alienated its core vote all over the place, but a new party of the left will never get any traction while Labour still exists. Let it do the decent thing and fall on its sword. Then we'll see what develops - it can hardly be worse.