• It's much less your problem if you live in a wealthy part of the country and aren't currently helped a lot by EU employment regulation.

    Longer term, sure, political unrest and the the rise of the far right is bad news. Right now I'd be keeping a close eye on just what bits of EU regulation are going and which are staying if I lived in Sunderland.

  • It's much less your problem if you live in a wealthy part of the country

    I think that's very astute. The referendum is being characterised by some as a simple battle between a Zenophobic Right and an inclusive Left. However, traditional Labour heartlands have voted to leave. If we are to unify the labour movement and take this country in the right direction, we need to recognise why they voted this way, even if we think they were wrong.

  • Yeah it's Xenophobic Right and Xenophobic Labour (eg New Labour) vs an inclusive left.

  • Recognition is not the same thing as building bridges. And while I can patronise the `working classes' with my sympathy, right now I feel like leaving them to it for a decade. Come the return of the workhouse I might pop up and ask them how they're enjoying life.

  • I think that's very astute. The referendum is being characterised by some as a simple battle between a Zenophobic Right and an inclusive Left. However, traditional Labour heartlands have voted to leave. If we are to unify the labour movement and take this country in the right direction, we need to recognise why they voted this way, even if we think they were wrong.

    Depressingly, I don't think this is possible currently. Neo-Liberal Austerity has decimated working class areas and isn't likely to stop. They've been told their problems are due to immigrants, benefit scroungers, disabled people etc rather than the every increasing flow of money upwards under Austerity.

    Such is the echo chamber of the Austerity message, people vote against things that are good for them and vote for more Austerity. Cornwall and Wales being good examples.

    Labour is continuing to detonate after electing a non ne0-liberal, and the media isn't giving Corbyn a fair shake of the stick.

    Not sure where the country can go from here.

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