EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • that'll be LORD farrage before long.

    fuck me this is bleak.

  • i wonder how small we can actually dice up the uk

    e15 / e20* voting to leave newham

    *want the financial powerhouse that is the olympic park in union with e15

  • any word on the location of the 11am Boris Speech moment?!

  • haranguing time ?

  • Border poll may be called with ROI. I've no idea how they can afford Norn Ire so whatever happens economy here is fucked.

    ROI passport applications are up massively too.

  • I think there is also a lot of anger knowing that most of the campaign for Exit was built on lies, and recognising that when these lies come home to roost a lot of pain will be felt, c.f. Nige saying "maybe we shouldn't have said £350 mil a week ..."

  • That's me then.

  • +1 @Velocio Putting all my eggs into the US visa basket for a software job out there is looking a whole lot more appealing today. The pay difference is just getting bigger and bigger.

  • Yeah, except migration isn't the problem, immigration is.

    BUT THAT IS AN INTERESTING ARTICLE AND I WOULD ADVISE PEOPLE TO READ IT.

  • Have we got time to make it to France?
    Nope.

  • I hope we made them pay for that wall

  • Jesus, that train is the spit of Cameron!

  • They said they 'could' not that they will.

    In fact, Ian Duncan Smith has himself signed a letter to make sure he gets his £150k a year subsidies even if the UK votes out...

    http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/leave_ministers_commit_to_maintain_eu_funding

    Whatever's left after wealthy land owners have been paid can probably go into a few triangular bandages or something.

  • We've been pushed to beyond breaking point by spending the last few months countering outright dishonesty from the Brexit side.

    I like to think of myself as both reasonable and rational most of the time but this morning I'm angry and upset.

  • Maybe only today as Trump is out of the country and in Scotland.

  • I had skimmed that, the bit I highlighted in bold was the bit.
    WAIT THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT! INFIGHTING.

  • I've just moved the majority of the pounds I had left in my UK account to Oz... I was holding out for a remain win, happy to lose a bit of cash and vote with my wallet today...

  • https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

    We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.

  • An unelected tory PM may be forced to call an early election. We need to unite the labour movement.

    Dave will win. Jean Majeur done this in 95 to prove he still had the mandate to lead.

    Remember, the majority of Conservatives wanted to remain and don't want BoJo.

  • The results map on the BBC website is telling, very clear demarcation between regions http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

    My department is probably about 30% EU nationals (we do a lot of overseas work so need the language skills). I'm amazed how we've got this far and still no-one knows what the fuck is the plan for EU citizens over here.

    As others have said though, just complaining that everyone is racist and thick isn't going to help much. It's happened and we need to get on with it and make the best we can or else we're going to have Boris and Farage tieing us into deals ...

  • As others have said though, just complaining that everyone is racist and thick is what caused this

    FTFY

  • Dave won't stand again though.

    Gideon or Theresa as the moderates' choice, Boris and Gove if you're 110% cunt rather than the standard Tory 100%.

    Liz Truss for the pork market expertise.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bRhlRM6rYck

  • Just a reminder there is a chink of light

    http://jackofkent.com/

    1. The EU referendum result, by itself, has no legal impact. It was an advisory not a mandatory referendum. (See my FT post here.)

    2. All UK law – including that drawn from the EU – remains in place today just as it was yesterday. Nothing in yesterday’s result affects the applicability or enforceability of any UK or EU law.

    3. The legally significant thing is not the referendum result but any Article 50 notification. There is no indication any UK politician is any rush to press that “red button”. Once pressed, that will give a two year period before the UK leaves the EU (unless EU Member States unanimously agree otherwise). Any fundamental legal change as a result of the Leave vote will not (and cannot) be until 2018 at the earliest.

    4. It is perfectly possible the Article 50 red button is never pressed – for example if there is a “new deal” and a second referendum. There is, after all, a tradition of EU-related referendums being repeated in Member States until there is the “correct” answer.

    5. On available information, there is no plausible legal challenge to the referendum result.

  • Again, to those remain-ers persistently saying they are disappointed / scared of the future for a inward looking UK and the disappointment for the rise of bigotry means for humanity, please remember that is damaging. It is prejudiced to think that all leave-ers are racist, to think they are in effect 'enemies' to a liberal future makes you close minded in the London bubble. If you grow to fear that those living outside London as being phobic then you too have become part of the problem. If you want to 'jump ship' before your doomed future is realised then that will also contribute to any rise of the right as they will be less opposed. The problem is ignorance and eduction, welcome each other always and forgive those whose view does not include the whole of humanity. You have the power to help all by changing someone's opinion, by making someone humanist. To those outside Boris' home hurling abuse and protest, wake up, we are not a country of racists and your anger will not heal or nourish anybody. If you respond to little Englanders with friction and contempt then the divisions will get worse. Please don't draw lines and reject those on the other side, build bridges.

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