EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

better go and change your vote...
You paper will have an ID

The biggest gem on this was a white English women on my mate's facebook saying "I'm voting out, cos immigrants" OK.. "And it's racist to call this racist".

Clearly a sore point to be seen as a supporter of a racism campaign for her. I don't know if she actually is not racist and buys all the fearmongering, hence the defensiveness, or doesn't want to fess up to it.

the U.K. solution at the next general election being a Labour/Corbyn vote then?

the 'working class' people you type of though would surely more identify with a Corbyn Labour proposition compared to the Milliband look though,

the 'working class' people you type of though would surely more identify with a Corbyn Labour proposition compared to the Milliband look though.

They didn't have that option at the time though. Hence non-racists voting for the only party that seemed to give a damn about them, who were the racists.

I've got 4 Outers on my FB:

1 Irish recent Cambridge graduate libertarian
1 South African cyclist
1 black 2nd generation British socialist Skinnerite
1 white English out and out racist

Don't really know what to make of those demographics.

True, I agree, some are undoubtedly racist. The point was more that just simplifying all voting Leave, UKIP, BNP down to "it's because they're racist" misses out a whole range of other issues.

@radmich Corbyn just doesn't seem to have taken off, I've heard various reasons why.

I think his difficulty in getting his message across and the presence of very few politicians who appear to actually be anything other than professional politicians (with the exception of a few who started off in law, marketing, etc) make today's politician's very difficult to relate to.

Also, his views on defence don't enamour him to a lot of traditional working class people I know.

Let's see I have:

1 English over 50s physics major, son married to somebody from SA. "sovereignity" and EU is racist (now I am not denying that but where is this perfect non racist utopia I hear so much about? It's always a matter of degrees) (friends)

2 One of his mates cos "sovereignty" (viavia)
3 Left wingers who wants "change" (a few) and think it ends well (bless) (friends)
4 Friend of a friend cos "immigrants" (viavia)
5 Random NI shitehawk on humanist forum who reads too much daily mail (troll)
6 A Chinese guy on same forum cos immigrants (irony meter kaputt)

Looking like well over 90% of my mates are IN. Also most of them are higher educated...and bloody lefties. And have a sense of humour and thinking skills. Just checked one more conservative mate but nothing on his BakeBook.

Well you have to admire the out and out racist. No farting about, no closeting. I prefer that over "I'm not racist but...". Does he/she have the IQ of a rooftile or is also defying stereotypes there?

Corbyn just doesn't seem to have taken off, I've heard various reasons why.

Round here they see him as been a bit mung bean and socks-and-sandals. They like their labour leaders to have a bit more knackers about them. I personally think he's decent, although he needs to speak out more. Half his policies are still a fucking mystery to me.

Corbyn just doesn't seem to have taken off, I've heard various reasons why.

If it's repeated enough times it will be believed.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/04/08/camerons-ratings-now-lower-corbyns/

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/o7f6u41miv/GMB_Results_160506_UndecidedVoters_Webstie.pdf

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/5d8yp4nyjt/InternalResults_160506_Elections_W.pdf

He's not charismatic. But he's not toxic, either. He's on par (or above) other major politicians, but for some reason it's not constantly repeated that they're unelectable or liabilities.

#offtopic

U wot m8?

Sorry, I really dislike self-professed Liberals. They turn fence-sitting into political action and act as if everyone else is deluded and confused, and unable to reflect rationally.

U wot? U talking to me bruv?

Froome is your friend on fb?

As super Froome fan @The_Seldom_Killer would surely tell you, Froome is Kenyan. I mean British.

Froome is from Rhodesia.

Or Maybe Gold Coast.

Definitely some bit of Africa that the Europeans once stole.

Froome is from Kenya, Wiggo is from Ghent and Millar is from Malta.

Get your facts right about these British cyclists!

Voting is the most profound thing you will ever do with your pathetic meaningless lives. VOTE!

Utter pish.

There are many people whose greatest impact upon the world will never be how they voted, but the actions they took - creating lives, saving lives, taking lives, taking a stand against injustice etc etc.

For me, this vote has a much greater impact than who gets to govern for the next few years and was worth taking part in.

Idris Elba, Stephen Hawking, Bobby George, Vivienne Westwood

or

Ian Botham, Sol Campbell, David Icke, Roger Daltry

Strip them off, lube them up, make them fight.
I'd buy a ticket.

I don't need to lad, because Froome is so fucking awesome every already knows, including you. I'm also dead chuffed you're fallen into my cunning trap and proved my point that he's a beautiful human being. Just one more closet within a closet that you've managed to come out of.

Not utter pish.

While it's true that there are those many, many people who's greatest act in life is so much more than how they voted, none of them are registered on this forum. If anything, I'd say that joining this forum is a sure fire way to ensure a life of pithy mediocrity.

Crispin's post is teh truth

Nooooo!

/Looks dejectedly at stem.