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  • Reform is what is required really.

    How will we reform it if we leave?

  • history is not on your side is it? yours has been the oft made refrain of the remain group over 40 + years. And what reform have they delivered since we have been "in"?

    in brief:

    Parliament moves every 15 minutes between cities at huge cost to the taxpayer for no good reason
    the accounts have never been audited correctly. only since 2009 and then always qualified i.e. they have no idea where the cash has gone
    it is not democratic
    it is corrupt

    Being in has not achieved much if you ask me. leaving would certainly precipitate an existential crisis for the EU. That could lead to more meaningful reform. Indeed Germany is now saying just that.

  • the accounts have never been audited correctly. only since 2009 and
    then always qualified i.e. they have no idea where the cash has gone

    Factually incorrect. Your own statement is contradictory - if they have never been audited correctly, how could they have been audited correctly since 2009?

    Actually they were qualified up to 2007, and have not been qualified since. They haven't been free from material error since forever. That's bad but that's something else.

    https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/

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