• I agree that the EU is not a socialist paradise. And it varies a lot per area, Portugal for example despite poverty still seems to have decent healthcare. Right wing by itself can mean several things. It's neolib that's very damaging.

    But if the EU is, on average, less right wing than the UK it will still have a tampering effect.

    I'm not sure what socialist paradise the UK can join with. Canada has a nasty deal cooking that is in parts as bad as TTIP despite the current left wing government...

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