• Bloodying the governments nose, but being the ones who really feel the effects of a recession caused by us leaving the EU? Do these people not have the power of critical thought?

    To be fair, a lot of people have got fuck all to lose. The recession never stopped round here. Our family is £10,000 down on where we were three years ago. Thanks, Cameron. The roads are knackered but they want to build a fucking great train track from here to London. Who'll be on it? Very few Northern businessmen, that's for sure. It's an elaborate commuter train for those with the money. Thanks, Gideon.
    I don't want to Leave, I want to Stay in Europe, but I'm not sneering down my nose at what some people see as a vote of desperation. If the politicians could be trusted we wouldn't be in this mess.

  • 10% less of fuck all is still fuck all. A lot of the people Luci describes don't perceive a mechanism by which their comparatively shitty hand can be made shittier. Then hang this £350m in front of them and voting is like a free lottery ticket. No one really thinks they personally are going to get a slice of the pie but Leave is the only campaign that has offered them even the faintest chance that them and theirs might. Talk of rebates and big international trade deals and so on and so forth don't really have a context in their lives. That's the talk of bankers and wankers down in that there London with their posh coffee and ivory towers. Labour and Remain have consistently failed to put this whole referendum into terms that are relevant to the embittered north.

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