EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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With all flaws NI has, there is representational voting here.

Maybe of interest if you want to see how it works in practice :)

You can use a pen, a crayon, a pencil or any other reasonable writing implement. Some people have attempted to write in blood because they feel so passionately about an election. However, election officials have been supported in refusing this on simple health grounds.

The majority of Tories declared for Remain prior to voting day.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35616946

In the end the decision was made for me. When Mrs TSK sat down the cat immediately shifted from my lap to hers. I won't lie, in the face of such brazen betrayal, I just wanted to watch the world burn and set out to vote Leave.

Interesting. If they're wrong it may really mess up the Tories.

But that can also lead to a lurch to ukip. As labour is remain. Either way, for NIs sake and mine I hope for remain.

But if it's brexit I won't bitch about "loss of sovereignty" 😉

Voted. First ever experience of a queue in a polling station. Will be a good turn out I suspect

What Will you bitch about? Gotta bitch

Not quite my first, there were queues in our area ahead of 1997. But queues at 7.30am are certainly a rarity anywhere. I walked past two more polling stations to get to my office, which also has a polling station in it, and I saw a lot of people walking around purposefully clutching polling cards.

England and its "England and the rest of the UK can f-off" attitude. Most don't even consider the consequences for Wales/NI who get EU grants.

[of course some people DO but I doubt it changes their voting, in the case it does, fair play and kudos to you :)]

But really do they expect from Westminster to pay us the EU cash? What do you expect from a pig bar a grunt...

iMHO the UK is not "united" at all, NI/Wales get barely a mention and the referendum is all bollix driven by a small group of hallions over in England. But youse are ok, group hug? :P

First queues I've ever been in as well, despite the pouring rain. That was partly due to the polling staff not being familiar with the concept of a couple with 'a proxy vote for each of our daughters' and faffing for ten minutes with them.

Had a moderately civil debate in the office yeaterday, 2 remain, 2 unsure and a leave. Lost all respect for 1 member of the team...

Perhaps the Brexit ones really don't see any harm...yesterday somebody posted the Germans will just let the UK trade for free which was instantly shot down here.

"forgive them for they haven't a clue" or something.

All the poor sods at my office that had to listen to me vent seem Remain.

I cycled to work this morning through a never ending sea of LEAVE posters and placards. I didn't see a single one for 'Remain', although someone had spray painted 'HATE' onto one placard, a small act of defiance.
Round these parts (Leeds) I think it's seen as manning the barracades, a chance to defy the enequality of the north south devide. I've told people that this is not the right battle ground but they say it's the only battleground they've been offered, the only chance to voice dissent from a crooked system. I agree with them that it's a great chance to bloody the government's nose, and part of me wants that, but is it worth biting your own nose off to see this happen? I don't think so.
Everyone I know round here are voting Leave. I am definitely in the minority.

The idea of the thoughtful and forward-thinking people being dictated to by old people, northerners, the uneducated and bigots is what appals me.

Bloodying the governments nose, but being the ones who really feel the effects of a recession caused by us leaving the EU? Do these people not have the power of critical thought?

I've seen similar arguments made my lefties: Vote Leave, watch government explode, get change.

Aside from the issues with the £££ bottom line, which is at least a temporary recession, there's no groundswell ATM for truly different voting. If the UK, as in Engerland, wanted change I'd have voted for it the past years and not voted the Tories back in.

Its the wrong time for that sort of stunt. Had there been massive riots, a strong Labour and plan Bs for trading, sure, why not?

The idea of the thoughtful and forward-thinking people being dictated to by old people, northerners, the uneducated and bigots is what appals me.

Perhaps if old people, northerners, those failed by the education system and undereducated people who hold outdated political opinions due to this very failing in education were not sytematically patronised by those who wrongly consider themselves to be of superior intelligence, then we wouldn't get such an extreme reaction from the disenfranchised electorate. These people trust the headlines. Everyone used to trust the headlines. If we end up sailing away from Europe, blame the headlines. But who wrote the headlines? The vast majority of journalists are young, educated, thoughtful Southerners.

Came through my door today. Boils my blood.

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how is fucking amazing dave voting ?

Stoned and dressed in a pink panther suit obvs

Like Owen Jones?

It's a failing of the mainstream political parties, but especially the Labour Party, that they can no longer engage certain sections of the working class. UKIP have successfully played on the fears of 'the other' with these people and 6 years of ideologically driven austerity has driven them into their arms.

Bloodying the governments nose, but being the ones who really feel the effects of a recession caused by us leaving the EU? Do these people not have the power of critical thought?

To be fair, a lot of people have got fuck all to lose. The recession never stopped round here. Our family is £10,000 down on where we were three years ago. Thanks, Cameron. The roads are knackered but they want to build a fucking great train track from here to London. Who'll be on it? Very few Northern businessmen, that's for sure. It's an elaborate commuter train for those with the money. Thanks, Gideon.
I don't want to Leave, I want to Stay in Europe, but I'm not sneering down my nose at what some people see as a vote of desperation. If the politicians could be trusted we wouldn't be in this mess.

I voted out.