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Can I offer some counters to the points you've raised?
charges us a lot for products that usually would be cheaper.
Will that reduce if we leave? For eg if you go to bike24 or one of the other German sites you can buy things without additional tax. Whereas if you use JensonUSA you'll get stung with our own tariffs.
whether or not we should leave the other countries in the EU to be fucked over in order to save ourselves.
If the EU fails and collapses, there will be significant consequences. Those effects will be world wide. It is the largest free market area in the world.
Do you think there would be a significant lessening if we leave? For example, though a conscious shift in our trade policy in the interim to ensure we are isolated from the fall out?
If we remain could we increase the chances of the EU collapsing? And is it worth trying?
hugo7-
The EU has little to no trade agreements with neighbouring countries and large manufacturing countries like China etc. Have a look at Switzerlands private trading model and if we imitated that, products would be cheaper, our exports would generate a larger revenue without the EU because of their ridiculous tax laws and the way they manipulate industries to maintain monopolies.
For me it's not the way that the EU operates in terms of trading etc, but it's how it is slowly moving towards a dictatorship than what it was meant to be a 'democracy'. The EU doesn't necessarily have to collapse, but has to be more honest and transparent about it's policies, and the laws its enforcing, all whilst the people are the main deciders and not hidden suits in Brussels. That way there would be nothing but benefits for the countries within the EU, but unfortunately this isn't the case
ajmkid
I'm stuck in between, it's no doubt we should not be a part of the EU because of their ludicrous laws to control masses of people, and their import and export 'middle man' service which charges us a lot for products that usually would be cheaper. It is more the debate whether or not we should leave the other countries in the EU to be fucked over in order to save ourselves. Rather than a quick escape we should look towards 'overthrowing' the EU and all the fuckerys that go on in Brussels.