• I'm stuck in between, it's no doubt we should not be a part of the EU because of their ludicrous laws to control masses of people, and their import and export 'middle man' service which charges us a lot for products that usually would be cheaper. It is more the debate whether or not we should leave the other countries in the EU to be fucked over in order to save ourselves. Rather than a quick escape we should look towards 'overthrowing' the EU and all the fuckerys that go on in Brussels.

  • Now that's a good question. First of all, we should be looking to get rid of the dead wood that only turns up to 1 out of 42 meetings for a committee that they are part of. You know, the likes of Farage.

    If we aren't benefiting from the EU, shouldn't we be looking at who does and considering their model?

  • Can I offer some counters to the points you've raised?

    charges us a lot for products that usually would be cheaper.

    Will that reduce if we leave? For eg if you go to bike24 or one of the other German sites you can buy things without additional tax. Whereas if you use JensonUSA you'll get stung with our own tariffs.

    whether or not we should leave the other countries in the EU to be fucked over in order to save ourselves.

    If the EU fails and collapses, there will be significant consequences. Those effects will be world wide. It is the largest free market area in the world.

    Do you think there would be a significant lessening if we leave? For example, though a conscious shift in our trade policy in the interim to ensure we are isolated from the fall out?

    If we remain could we increase the chances of the EU collapsing? And is it worth trying?

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