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And as for bars - everyone should ride traditional bend bars, as compacts are shit.

Traditional bend bars prevent you mounting your shifters like a belm.

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Bar setup is pretty much down to personal preference.

What's the over-riding metric being used to judge bikes in this thread?

Personal preference?!

Is interesting.

I think Campag tend to fit traditional bars better.

But I must say a horizontal transition is more preferable imo.

Ergonomically and aesthetically.

Shifters, bars, stem and saddle should all be parallel to the same plane, if the frame has traditional geometry then it should be the top tube, if it is a TCR, then throw it in the bin and start from scratch.

Bars need tilting up and shifters need tilting down. And Lightweight need a new typeface.

Are you going through my eBay saved searches?

One of the reasons I like the Gios on the previous page so much is that it's my size (an aesthetically pleasing medium-sized bicycle) and with my preferred set-up of compact bars with flat transition to the hoods.

But yeah, each to their own.

Oh do go on - please post a picture of your perfectly proportioned and positioned bicycle, along with a thorough summary of why your bicycle should be seen as better and also a prefix of why a TCR should be thrown in the bin!

Traditional geo vs compact innit.

Faux Pro wins?

Let me just check my angles... On my TCR....

I wasn't talking of the fact they are compact per se but the fact lots of them are not really well designed, as @Sumo said they are often misunderstood, and an example is the one posted above by @Dammit, where I challenge the owner to sprint on the drops out of the saddle without having their hands sliding down, loosing grip or excessively twisting their wrists in a unnatural position.

Pictures or it didn't happen....

I ALSO AM FURIOUS ABOUT MILLIMETRE DIFFERENCES IN HOOD ANGLE ON BIKES I DON'T OWN

jesus lads it's not that important. As long as we all agree that ergonovas are awful...

p.s. if you want trad drops but also fancy a flat ramp/transition, Zipp SL88 are v nice

That's a fair point and I can see what you mean. I've only got some cheap compact drops on my bikes, deda rhm 01 and 02 on two bikes. They seem to allow me to have a flat transition on the top of the bars to the shifters and also come round enough on the drops to allow me to sprint comfortably. Not sure how much they differ from other bars so maybe they do have a longer drop section, or maybe I'm just dead good at setting bars up ;) ha

what are the bottle cages you;re running?

There is a bike fit thread on here somewhere...

This is Hip Hop fit

There is a bike fit thread on here somewhere...

That's mostly about yoga, I think?

I AM ALSO FURIOUS ABOUT THIS
WHAT ARE WE FURIOUS ABOUT??