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  • Well, as long as we're agreed that SunTour were first and Shimano isn't much of an innovator either. If I'm going to continue to fight this corner, indexed shifting and STI shifters are just incremental improvements on the cabled groupset; Di2 is a cabled groupset too, with some admitted improvements. I've made the comparison before between CDs / Minidisk / MP3, which I think is quite apt. Minidisk was an improvement on CDs in a lot of ways, but it was quickly sidelined by the convenience of digital music.

    Wireless is a paradigm shift.

    p.s. I'm not half as much of a fanboy as I make out. I think wireless shifting is cool, but I've got Shimano and SRAM cable groupsets on my bikes, and it'll stay that way for a long old time I recon. I prefer SRAM shifting and hood shape, but I've used Campag and own Shimano without complaint. I enjoy the discussion if I'm honest.

  • MP3

    If we REALLY really want to go to the source then MP3 was invented by Fraunhofer Society and I hope they got royalties.

    Who invented it first is hardly relevant in the mainstream.

    Wireless is a paradigm shift.

    100% agree. The relevancy is subjective. Pros dont care, noobs would love it. If Shimano comes up with it then it will be a better, more solid and cheaper product than Sram. And I will thank Sram for making that paradigm shift and buy Shimano.

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