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Here's why all these drop bar mtbs have such aesthetically challenging spacer stacks - the drops are shallow but still fairly significant, particularly when you align them with your natural wrist angle. I've finished up with the drops about the same height as the elbow pads on my TT bike. That was set up using frickin laser beams, the MTB was set up by bombing round some tracks, adjust, repeat. I guess i'm pretty set in my ways with regard to comfort.