In the news

I think it was the footage of him trying to drink a pint that did for him.

'news'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36247516

The picture on the magazine under his plate is of his ex wife in a bikini. :)

don't get me wrong - if you feel it's acceptable to resort to being a misogynist arsehole to get your point across, you should be shut down and ignored faster than you can say "tips fedora", however using incidental expressions of sexism to discredit & shut down legitimate criticism is a pretty shitty thing to do, even tho it looks like this was actioned with the poll-makers consent.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/may/10/laura-kuenssberg-petition-sexist-abuse-38-degrees-bbc

Petitions tho >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That link's not working.

absolutely. and laura kuenssberg (and much of the BBC news editorial team) can >>>>>>>> with them.

I don't think they were doing it to get the petition shut down. They were doing it because they can't cope with a woman being mentioned on the internet outside of a porn or sandwich making context. On a digital scale, we really are seeing men split into the Morlocks and the Eloi.

Which ones get laid more?

i totally get that, sadly these idiots lack the self awareness to even begin to understand how their knuckle-draggery serves merely to arm the very people they're impotently railing against with the ammunition required to steer the narrative in a direction that makes the subject a victim - which they objectively are.

dickheads.

I really don't get the Corbyn mob. They appear completely unable to accept any kind of criticism without resorting to abuse and fucking petitions. Have any of them actually watched the BBC footage in question? It is merely a discussion about the results of the elections.

The results for Labour were appalling by anyone's standards. Labour were obliterated in Scotland and finished in third. Corbyn became the first opposition leader for 50 years to lose seats at his first local elections. The shadow cabinet were constantly in the news describing the results as a disappointment and that the party is well on course to lose the next general election. No matter the spin, these would be terrible results at any time, let alone in the context of Tory moves on the NHS, disability benefits, academies, warring over Europe etc...

Can these facts not be reported without the journalist in question being called every name under the sun?

Laura? is that you?

considering the relentless attacks on labour and corbyn by the BBC etc i reckon labour did ok.

i imagine the tory party would have fared even less well had the BBC bothered to report effectively on the human cost of austerity, anti government protests, tory election fraud etc.

I thought the results were quite good for labour, no big losses despite being trounced at the last General Election. Two new mayors. I voted for local issues rather than to give Corbyn a big thumbs up, as did most of the people I spoke to (Labour got in again in my ward).
The BBC is terrible at the moment though - all the reporting was about it being bad for Corbyn, then under headline, saying Labour had done better than expected. It made no sense.

I think the idea of a 'Corbyn Mob' is misguided as well - 'mob' sounds like a minority, when actually the majority of the party voted for him. Most people probably just want everyone to stop moaning and get on with their jobs.

'Corbyn Mob'

that's the last time you have a pop at anyone on here for saying "tory scum"

I agree the BBC is terrible. I loathe the institution and resent paying for the drivel that it is currently producing and the absurd salaries it pays utterly incompetent people. I just don't think the footage in question warranted some ridiculous petition and yet another volley of abuse.

The results can be spun whichever way you want - every party in the country claimed it was a success for them! Corbyn said Labour 'clung on'. Great. That's inspiring stuff in the current climate.

'Mob' might not have been the best word - it was more a word to represent their abusive behaviour than their size. Corbyn supporters were indeed a majority of Labour members when he was elected. Those who supported him however represent just over 2% of the people that voted Labour in the last general election. Just because Corbyn has the support of 250k members (35% of whom were the £3 sign-up and vote type) doesn't mean he will attract broad support where it matters.

A mob is a large and perhaps disorderly crowd. It is a description not a term of abuse.

Corbyn supporters were indeed a majority of Labour members when he was elected. Those who supported him however represent just over 2% of the people that voted Labour in the last general election. Just because Corbyn has the support of 250k members (35% of whom were the £3 sign-up and vote type) doesn't mean he will attract broad support where it matters.

Within the country (according to polls and election results), Labour under Corbyn are the most popular party in the UK right now.

Within the party, Corbyn in the most popular leader.

Who is Corbyn not popular with? Powerful party members and the media (part of the latter I admit is his own fault).

The media on politics is shocking right now.

The "mob" may not be a majority in the UK, but it's the biggest mob in the UK.

The BBC is still arguably the finest source of impartial-ish news we have on the planet, especially when you consider the alternative, and although, like the NHS, it is not without its shortcomings, it is something we should all be proud of.

I'll happily pay my license fee, in spite of recent events.

I think the last paragraph of this accurately summed up the Labour party recently :http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/until-corbyn-led-the-labour-party-we-were-all-wonderfully-polite-a6777416.html

Compared with moderately united opposition parties of the past, Labour's performance at the recent elections wasn't great, but to make that comparison is to ignore Corbyn's entire story. The PLP wanted to keep trying the tory-lite course which was such a failure at the last election, but in a moment of heady idealism they'd accidentally allowed a bit of genuine democracy into the leader selection process, so ended up with someone who has a lot of genuine support outside the westminster bubble. Both the PLP and the media are stuck complaining ever more loudly that Corbyn is doing 'tory-lite' really badly, never daring to even mention what his actual goals might be, get out of Westminster to see what real people might make of them, and judge him on that.

So i can see why people are angry, and it's sad that some of them are misogynists (who i utterly deplore), and i can see why that's the only newsworthy aspect of this when you're looking out from inside the Westminster bubble, or from anywhere on the right. I fear that 'Corbyn supporters are nutters' will become a self-reinforcing media meme that swamps the good and genuine intentions of many who voted for him.

As David Graeber has complained: the right well knows that you have to make space for your extremists because they make space for the moderates. The left turns on its extremists as traitors and so the Overton window shifts ever rightwards and even moderate leftists find themselves in the darkness of media incredulity.

Had it been a conservative-led poll, it would have been left up, regardless of misogyny. Excuses would have been made etc.

It wasn't party led was it? It was led by some "activist" group or whatever.

It was 38degrees, as far as I can see from their BARRAGE of emails, they're primarily lefty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukun8nc5Y8U

My god what a courage:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2016/may/10/eu-referendum-iain-duncan-smith-says-eu-membership-hurts-the-poor-politics-live

The Queen: Tell me about, my disgraceful son.
The Cameron: No worries mummy, the media are busy with Corbyn.

I'll happily pay my license fee, in spite of recent events.

I happily pay it just for the website, R4 and R6 Music. Almost never watch TV nowadays.