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johnnyhotdog-
I'm not against people using alternatives, maybe my angst stems from me loving the idea of them, but not digging how they taste-I guess my point is, there are many naturally vegan items which are just amazing, enjoyed by vegans and otherwise which I personally find to be wholesome and tasty.
Think I actually read about that "vegan kebab" although impressed, I must admit I find it a tad absurd
James.
My problem with the substitutions are gustatorial, they taste like crap.
I have a vegan friend who loves tofurky, rice dream, daiya cheese, dairy free chocolate and a variety of oleos. Luckily we can still drink together.