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If you dismount you are a pedestrian and can do what you like. If you are cycling it's the same, it's sometimes ambiguously marked for cyclists but if it has a clear stop line or kerb where a stop line could be then that's that I'd think as the law broken when jumping the lights is "ignoring a traffic signal" which all the lights could be taken as. Also I'd think it depends if it's a cycle track parallel to a pedestrian crossing or a shared use pavement toucan crossing or a tiger pegasus pelican or other crossing.
I noticed E+C going in from the south the cycle lane to the left that goes behind the bus stops fills from the ASL and has no stop line so you can just ride off the road into it.
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If you dismount you are a pedestrian and can do what you like.
Not quite. You're a pedestrian propelling a vehicle. The bike doesn't disappear when you dismount it. This is the common misinterpretion of the Crank vs Brooks ruling.
If you are cycling it's the same, it's sometimes ambiguously marked for cyclists but if it has a clear stop line or kerb where a stop line could be then that's that I'd think as the law broken when jumping the lights is "ignoring a traffic signal" which all the lights could be taken as.
The RLJ offence is (paraphrased) "propelling a vehicle across the stop line on a red signal". Hence my question about whether there is a stop line or not. Which is why crossing a toucan crossing (or even a puffin/pelican crossing) from side to side (so not crossing a stop line) can be done regardless of the crossing signal.
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I noticed E+C going in from the south the cycle lane to the left that goes behind the bus stops fills from the ASL and has no stop line so you can just ride off the road into it.
Yup- this is a really good feature, IMO. Not waiting for those lights can mean that using the cycle lane is quicker, even when slowing down a little to a safe speed around dozy peds.
Greenbank
skidlidsid
A question re new cycle lanes (that perhaps @Clockwise knows the answer to); Where cycle lanes come to signalled crossing points (as per E&C), what is their legal status, as far as being part of the highway, and therefore the rules? The other day, I was waiting at the lights to cross and, weirdly for E&C, there was no road traffic approaching, yet I was sat at a red light. Eventually I just went across, but was I breaking the law? As a cyclist at a crossing, is my status no different to a pedestrian who may similarly cross if they deem the road to be safe, despite the crossing signal saying 'no'?
CQB