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Great, thanks for your help. Which tracking number should I submit to PayPal? The second one? Or can I add a second one later?

Oh shit! I've been warned!

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Tell PayPal you will only return it if he pays shipping.

I'd send both but if u can only do one then I'd go the second as that's the actual one from the uk to his. As TM said, keep them informed of absolutely everything and send them his replies, threats etc. He sounds like an absolute an utter cunt, I don't use that word lightly. Hope it gets sorted bro. T

How is your PayPal linked to your bank account?

If via card may be worth speaking to your banks cards team, if by direct debit they may still be able to help.

I don't know if this service is available in UK, but in France, paypal refunds returns.
https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/refunded-returns
I use this service 3 or 4 times.

This guys a douche. Is there no way you can share this screenshot/ message with eBay and/ or Paypal?
Might work in your favor? It's threatening behavior, after all he has warned you... ha
Also, I read an article recently about a guy that bought a phone on eBay, when it arrived it was just a box of beetroot. But because the size and weight was equal to that of a phone he couldn't do anything about it.
Send the sod a large box of beetroot

Just spoken to paypal again an they said there is nothing I can do except post it back. If he refuses the delivery thats his fault. Sorting out postage with landmark now

Make sure to properly kick the living shit out of the frame before packing it carefully and taking pics of it looking hunky dory. Dude is a walloper.

I won't be doing that but I will make sure to take proper pics of the frame and box before it goes off

I think he's been reading this thread so make sure to say hi :~)

I think he's been reading this thread

Has he told you that he warns people again?

I hope he knows that he is a CUNT SELLER then...

Tell him I still have that Takhion..

Have you sorted the courier yet?

I did a quick search and found Air Express via Parcelmonkey for £90

Fuck me - this bloke sounds like a right stroker.

Where's the frame going back to?

Booked with postage supermarket, cost £34 fully insured.

@b&d frames going to South Korea

one of the Koreas I think

Good-oh!

What the fuck is he going to do to anyone from there?

Mail you some out of date kimchi?!

I wouldn't bother to break the frame but it would be nice to use as packaging just few wraps of cling film.

Pack it properly - be the better man.

Shit in the seat tube.

But only a small one, otherwise it'll bump the cost of shipping up.

^oh my god that reply wins

I bought a bike (https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/282309/) a couple of months back and have not had a great time with the seller. I asked them to let me know if the bike had any rust or major tarnishing as I wanted the parts for another frame. The seller responded and said not much and specifically said there is a bit on the derailleur bolts and spokes, so I thought great, I'll have it. I wanted the wheels, derailleurs and shifters for another bike.

When it arrived the bike had quite considerable rust on it. The frame has numerous patches (although surface only), the quick release skewers were covered in it, the shifters were rusted to the frame (and rusted together) and would only come off with considerable force (and the death of the shifting band) and so on and so forth.

I wouldn't normally mind but having asked the specific question, and being given a specific answer, I was a bit put out. I contacted the seller who said they were sorry I was disappointed, and said they'd dig out some skewers I could have. Any questions I raised about the other bits were ignored. After 8 weeks ish they finally said they had no other skewers, and that was that. Clearly didn't really give a shit.

I wrote back over a week ago saying I still wasn't pleased but they didn't bother responding. I've been really polite and reasonable, have had to wait at least a week between their responses and frankly, they seem completely unaware that if you sell something it's at least a basic request to describe it accurately, or at least maintain a dialogue to explain why they think they're correct.

I can't be arsed sending it back. With a few good hours on the wire wool and rust remover, most of it came off and the bits I wanted have come up ok, aside from the shifters which are binned. I just thought I'd post on here as feedback of my experience. I appreciate they have a busy job and a new child etc but when you sell something, you also have a responsibility to communicate and accurately describe things.

Oh and the seller is @AKiwi

Bike has now been collected and is in transit! I got some weird emails from paypal supposivly which were asking for more details on the case which got me worried. They were weird because the grammar was off and a few of the sentences didn't make sense. Phoned PayPal and they just said ignore them and send it so all is sorted now! Just have to wait for my refund and I can find something new :~)

Cheers for the help everyone!