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we should pint, btw - i need advice from the doc

Hitler looks so Emo in that drawing.

Absolutely. Fire up the email machine.

copy that

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Yes, but when the General Secretary took that action a few hours after the leader of the Party stated that Shah wouldn't be suspended and a statement was released saying "we're saying she's made remarks that she doesn't agree with". The context is rather important. Whichever way you try to spin this, the Labour party has a massive problem from its roots up to Corbyn (to mention a few - the Oxford University Labour Club, Gerry Downing, Vicky Kirby, Seumas Milne, Corbyn's acquiescence in all of this).

whilst labour is handwringing over the questionable comments made by an MP, BEFORE she was an MP, i'll reserve my spleen for the actually offensive racist & islamophobic views expressed by johnson and goldsmith, for whom cameron hasn't offered a single apology.

toryscum. it's ok when we do it because you don't expect any less.

zionism is no different to apartheid and should be called out for the blatant fascism it is.

It's not a massive problem. Two labour members have been expelled, that's it. Should Boris be investigated or suspended for his dumbass, squalid remarks about Obama's Kenyan heritage? It's attacking someone for what they are, after all.

Fuckstick greenhell's nimble fingers.

Whichever way you try to spin this, the Labour party has a massive problem from its roots up to Corbyn

What is Corbyn's history of antisemitism? That's a pretty bold claim. The JC tried to push it during the leadership race and it was total smear (which, if I remember correctly, did a good job of pissing off a portion of its readership).

I agree with the position that antisemitism should have no home in any party, least of all Labour. It's vile and pathetic and really, really, makes me sad.

yeah but you said it betterer.

Livingstone now claiming the entire thing is an Israeli conspiracy and justifying Shah's comments through Hitler's policies. You couldn't make this stuff up. Livingstone doesn't hold elected office. He is a vile man, why on Earth does Corbyn give him a platform?

I'm not saying it's not an issue but it might be worth having a look at the views of the relatively new head of bbc news on this one...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2016/apr/28/labour-has-serious-problem-with-antisemitism-peers-claim-politics-live

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Livingstone doesn't hold elected office.

Not public office, but isn't he still on Labour's NEC?

He is a vile man, why on Earth does Corbyn give him a platform?

When Livingstone, an extremely prominent politician in virtue of having held senior elected office, wants to say something in public, he'll have the attention of the press, it's as simple as that, and he'll have it for some time to come.

I can't possibly imagine that he cleared this with Corbyn. He's just been a loose cannon lately. Didn't Corbyn remove him from heading up the defence review, or at least reduce his role?

I agree with the position that antisemitism should have no home in any party, least of all Labour.

Equally, using claims of anti-Semitism (and people's apparent reluctance to call bullshit on those claims) is as bad, and diminishes actual anti-Semitism / racism of any kind.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/28/deadly-airstrike-on-hospital-aleppo-syria-reports-say

Another MSF hospital bombed.

I have said this before and I'll say it again, I hate the constant way that national socialist fascism is dragged into all sorts of controversial debates to which it bears no comparison. Ignorantly using it to draw comparisons with Israel is a case in point. What's going on there is effectively a civil war, a very unpleasant one in which people are injured and die and are having their property destroyed, to varying extents on both sides, but Israel is not a fascist dictatorship headed up by a deluded failed artist and political hasardeur filled with neurotic hatred whose actions ended up costing millions of lives.

Whatever people use the Nazi comparison for, it is never appropriate, because nothing that we know of as evil even comes close. Not even Stalin's reign is in the same league, although that in itself was bad enough in its use of forced labour and internment of political opponents, as well as various genocidal famines, e.g. Holodomor or the Soviet famine, with millions of victims. Yes, the Nazis were really that bad.

Judaism ≠ Zionism... #etc

Ken now suspended for "bringing the party into disrepute".

She refers to Jews as a problem

Did she though? The original tweet says nothing about 'Jews' and in the context of the state of Israel being created in 1948, is not actually that outrageous a thought experiment.

I feel that most of this outrage is a thinly-veiled excuse to bash Labour.

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KS/NE won't be happy about losing a load of land.

The original tweet isn't where she made that remark. This is far from a 'thinly veiled excuse to bash Labour'. The ones doing the bashing are Labour MPs and Labour peers!

Diane Abbott has been deleting historic tweets supporting Livingstone's election to NEC. How do these people think that sort of activity won't get picked up!?

these people

Oh no you di'n't