Time Trial / Time Trialling / TT

I thought that too, i'm about 5 months too slow at the moment to be doing hills

Surely a hillclimb in April means you have no time of the year where you can just be fat?

The way I see it, turning up fat and untrained is actually a subversive act, so my ride will be postmodern.

a hillclimb in April means you have no time of the year where you can just be fat

You mean there's a time when you have to be something else?

@Cycliste wants to do a 25 on the 28th May at 2pm. I want to do a different 25 at 6am on the 29th May. How much of a plonker am I for having agreed that I'll do both?

"I would there were no age between sixteen and three and twenty, or that youth would sleep out the rest; for there is nothing in the between but getting wenches with child, wronging the ancientry......." (The Winter's Tale, Act 3, scene 3)

There's nothing new in one generation slagging off another - in fact it seems to be a part of the human condition. What makes me fear that I am right is the evidence of the large number of classic events, both road and time trial, which have been lost already.

What makes me fear that I am right is the evidence of the large number of classic events, both road and time trial, which have been lost already.

I'm not sure how much of that is down to staff shortages. In many cases, courses have become unavailable due to changes in road layouts* to suit the higher volume of traffic in modern times, and in the case of road races police seem to have become less willing to facilitate sport if it even slightly inconveniences the local people.

*In the olden days (and this was before even my time), a 100 involved riding up the road for 50 miles and doing a U-turn when you met the marshal. As the regulations stand at the moment, it would not be possible to restore the Bath Road 100 because the usable circuit starting in Pangbourne Lane is too short to permit even a pale imitation of the classic.

A U-turn? But they're DANGEROUS!!! Or so I've been told.

A U-turn? But they're DANGEROUS!!!

Which is why we don't do them any more. I'm just about old enough to have done a U-turn in a club event, but they were already banned in opens.

Pfft you young whipper snappers...

Self-preservation is much lower on the scale of things to give a shit about in Oz. We were still doing dead-turn TTs when I left.

Self-preservation is much lower on the scale of things to give a shit about in Oz. We were still doing dead-turn TTs when I left.

Most of the wildlife can kill you but there are so few people that you're unlucky if you see a car from one hour to the next; that's bound to have an effect on the TT and Tri regulations. You wouldn't want to do either an open water swim or leave your shoes unattended in transition, but a U-ey on a major highway is pretty risk free :-)

It was outside Melbourne so pretty quiet - certainly not the A40 but more like a Chiltern lane. Unlike a Chiltern lane though, drivers would be doing 100kph along it.
I'm not sure if they still use dead-turns or not. It wouldn't surprise me if the bunch of fuckwits in charge had banned bikes on the road because a cyclist once scared an old lady that stepped out into the road...

I've done both the open water swimming and left shoes in transition. Still alive. You lot worry too much about the critters in Oz. Fuckwits in V8s are far more likely to kill you than our creepy crawlies.

Oh, Chris, when will you ever learn not to raise the tone? :)

Thanks, Oliver. Your input is always appreciated.

I have a busy day today, but I'll respond to some of the points made above as soon as I can get a few minutes to write.

Self-preservation is much lower on the scale of things to give a shit about in Oz. We were still doing dead-turn TTs when I left.

Plenty of dead turns up here still too.

up here?

North of the wall

What he said^ - Scotland

What he said^ - Scotland

I'm guessing that won't be the case for events run under CTT regulations, now that there's a Scotland district.

Does anyone have any experience of London South/G courses or clubs?

Does anyone have any experience of London South/G courses or clubs?

Thinking of moving?

I'll have jinxed it now, but the outfit I'm currently subbing for are making encouraging noises...

Scilly.Surrey?

G10/42 is not bad as a local course for evening events. GS courses are officially sporting, but plenty of the other courses verge on sporting too, although they should still be ridable on fixed. Up at that Surrey end of the district you're also reasonably close to the A3 based P88x courses. I'm more familiar with the Sussex clubs, so somebody else can suggest clubs for you, but there are plenty to choose from.

Thanks.

Doesn't sound too different to where I am.

Meh.

And when I thought a hill climb couldn't get much worse, it snowed.

At least I'll hopefully be in tropical Oxford this time next year.