Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

am not dismissing the Nissan offerings, nor the landcruiser

New Volvo XC90's handsome, which is some turnaround considering the previous iteration is the ugliest thing since the Lancia Ypsilon

All the people who have to get themselves pulled out of the sand dunes in the middle east, have driven the pseudo four wheel drives into places they really shouldn't and they're nearly always rescued/towed out by a Landcruiser or a Nissan.

The Defenders hold up pretty well to the dunes too.

those massive dunes of brockley

Exactly.

Whatever you buy don't buy a Pájero.

new XC90 on the list for a drive too

@jaw - the 2.8 forerunner of the shogun, not a bad car, back in the 90's

Actual lol.

They're actually all driven by pájeros...

I am hoping the lack of any contact means that @mashton hasn't:

1. fucked off with the pride of brockley
   
2. stuck it into a tree
   
3. had to call a tow truck in the middle of the new forest
   

You're right that a proper Range Rover is genuinely capable off-road, the Sport and Evoque much less so, regardless of tyres and wheels.

Just get the bloody Shogun, if only on the basis that my L200 hasn't missed a beat in 12 years from new and is absolutely fine off-road, despite the primitive rear suspension.

That joke never gets old.

Jokes aside, the land cruiser is a beast of a car. For a bit of nostalgia I'd go for a defender or a 70s series land cruiser.

Does anyone have recommendation for family car. 2 adult 2 kids really. Was looking at astra/auris. Wanna rid the rubbish pug 206 i have

fj landcruisers are going for stupid money now.

I seriously looked at a crew cab defender 130 wide bed - beast, but so fucking primitive

We used to have a couple on the farm when I was a nipper. My uncle kept one until it was destroyed in the mid 90s.

yes, shogun hard to beat on meeting requirements, I just lust after something a little more......

....Essex

:o

Disco 4?

Do you want a 4x4 or a Chelsea tractor?

Subaru Legacy Blitzen

bit of both mate, 4x4 for the rough lanes / point to point meets in northants

Chelsea tractor for nipping down the M1 to see the Essex clan

Forester

Skoda Yeti FTW!

Geländewagen, tinted windows compulsory.

Bossman at work just bought a pair of long wheelbase Range Rovers. A snip at £180k each.

Shut up, the Ypsilon is lovely.