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  • This conversation supports a growing suspicion of mine that my demographic may be the last which is prepared to give its time freely to group activities. I very much hope I'm wrong about this.

    You probably are wrong. You look at young people and don't see them being willing to help. 50 years ago, the old timers looked at the youth and saw them unwilling to help. In 50 years time, the people who seem unwilling to help now will be the ones organising everything and complaining that the youth aren't pulling their weight.

    If we had to pay professional organisers (and marshals) how much would it cost to enter a 25? I guess a starting figure would be at least £100.

    Getting a dozen people out for two hours early on a Sunday morning should be possible with a budget of £1200, that's £10 per rider for a full field on top of the usual entry fee.

  • "I would there were no age between sixteen and three and twenty, or that youth would sleep out the rest; for there is nothing in the between but getting wenches with child, wronging the ancientry......." (The Winter's Tale, Act 3, scene 3)

    There's nothing new in one generation slagging off another - in fact it seems to be a part of the human condition. What makes me fear that I am right is the evidence of the large number of classic events, both road and time trial, which have been lost already.

  • What makes me fear that I am right is the evidence of the large number of classic events, both road and time trial, which have been lost already.

    I'm not sure how much of that is down to staff shortages. In many cases, courses have become unavailable due to changes in road layouts* to suit the higher volume of traffic in modern times, and in the case of road races police seem to have become less willing to facilitate sport if it even slightly inconveniences the local people.

    *In the olden days (and this was before even my time), a 100 involved riding up the road for 50 miles and doing a U-turn when you met the marshal. As the regulations stand at the moment, it would not be possible to restore the Bath Road 100 because the usable circuit starting in Pangbourne Lane is too short to permit even a pale imitation of the classic.

  • Oh, Chris, when will you ever learn not to raise the tone? :)

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