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  • I'm not really buying the Scottish argument, don't think going to a footballing backwater for the slim chance to play a European giant trumps challenging for the first division title. Also why didn't the other top English clubs hemorrhage talent in the same way?

    I'm not saying the ban wasn't damaging to English football, I think all teams lost touch with how the rest of Europe played the game and there was a long period of catch-up once the ban was lifted, but I think it's a bit much for Everton to claim they in particular had their entire future trashed by it.

    Of course if I'd just seen my team roll over so meekly to the local/hated opposition I'd be saying a lot of shit which wouldn't hold up to closer inspection, most of us probably would, wouldn't we Clive?

  • Scottish football was much more a force to be reckoned with back then compared to today. Hardly a backwater.

    I think it's a bit much for Everton to claim they in particular had their entire future trashed by it.

    Based on a man in a pub claiming this, not Everton claiming it. I'm certainly not claiming it. It didn't help of course.

  • Scottish football was much more a force to be reckoned with back then compared to today. Hardly a backwater

    Was about to say the same. In the mid to late 80s Scottish teams were doing very well in Europe, I think both Dundee Utd and Aberdeen reached finals then, with the latter winning the Cup Winners Cup (I think?) when Alex Ferguson was in charge. The decline in Scottish football has been relatively recent.

  • tallsam in reply to @middleofnowhere
    Scottish football was much more a force to be reckoned with back then compared to today. Hardly a backwater.

    I think it's a bit much for Everton to claim they in particular had their entire future trashed by it.
    Based on a man in a pub claiming this, not Everton claiming it. I'm certainly not claiming it. It didn't help of course.

    The Scots lured the best from the English game in the 80s...

    Genuine question/point: Knowing that hooliganism was rife throughout all of football, back then the European and Uefa cups featured one team/country, and the Italian fans were known for being moped pillion riding, knife wielding twats, surely any other set of fans that featured in that final would have been doing the same against them? There is a lot that LFC did poorly but exactly why are Liverpool blamed for Uefa's decision to host a European cup final in a stadium that was falling apart and made of cinder blocks when the only thing it was fit for was demolition? [Obv nowt to do with chelsea.]

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