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• #127227
In other news, Chelsea U19s retained the European champions trophy, first team to do so.
FA youth cup up next.
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• #127228
Ironically enough we won the league in '87 with Wayne Clarke up front! 😳
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• #127229
...and Paul Power at left back!
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• #127230
OK, Linaker went to Barca, but where did the others fuck off to? If it's to other English clubs then the Euro ban is not really the issue is it?
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• #127231
That is some achievement, he was dog shite, barely the level of non-league.
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• #127232
Shame they'll be losing their jobs soon.
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• #127233
Steven and Stevens both went north of the border to Rangers.
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• #127234
So not really chasing European glory then.
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• #127235
Thats not a bad record:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C._in_European_football
Pretty consistent european football for a long time, until the recent financial problems.Also as an English man where are you going to go to play European football at that time? Hardly anyone went to the continent. Its literally that or Celtic. EDIT: Actually Celtic were shite at the time. Its Rangers or go somewhere where you don't speak the language (which seems a weak excuse now but was largely true at the time)
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• #127236
Scottish teams were still in Europe
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• #127237
The whole team collapsed after Kendall left as he also fucked off to Bilbao
Colin Harvey, although winning the league in 87 was a car crash
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• #127238
Trevor Steven then went on to Marseille and won things with Waddle. Some team that...won the European Cup iirc...Steven on the right, Waddle on the left...Papin up front...hell of a team!
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• #127239
The great Derek Moutfield went to villa.
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• #127240
He had some pace though...with a tache to match
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• #127241
Actually, got that wrong...Kendall won us the league in '86/87, then fucked off to Bilbao leaving Harvey in charge
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• #127242
Clarke or Power?
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• #127243
I'm not really buying the Scottish argument, don't think going to a footballing backwater for the slim chance to play a European giant trumps challenging for the first division title. Also why didn't the other top English clubs hemorrhage talent in the same way?
I'm not saying the ban wasn't damaging to English football, I think all teams lost touch with how the rest of Europe played the game and there was a long period of catch-up once the ban was lifted, but I think it's a bit much for Everton to claim they in particular had their entire future trashed by it.
Of course if I'd just seen my team roll over so meekly to the local/hated opposition I'd be saying a lot of shit which wouldn't hold up to closer inspection, most of us probably would, wouldn't we Clive?
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• #127244
Who do Evertonians REALISTICALLY want/see as their next manager?
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• #127245
It meant that relative no-marks like Rangers could hoover up English talent, with money and European football, which would make up for being away to the likes of Dunfermline
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• #127246
Rangers got a load of money and the motivation to tear shit up after signing Souness.
Souness looked around and realised there was something to be had by signing English/UK players from English teams with the lure of money, euro competition, being fucking mental, and getting to sing stupid songs about sashes or someshit. -
• #127247
Look at that we posted the same thing but with different words.
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• #127248
j. wilson on the return of the "team" vs the idolatry of the individual
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• #127249
I'm not saying the ban wasn't damaging to English football, I think all teams lost touch with how the rest of Europe played the game and there was a long period of catch-up once the ban was lifted, but I think it's a bit much for Everton to claim they in particular had their entire future trashed by it.>
It was when he said that Everton were the best team in the world in 1986 that I had to surpress pissing myself with laughter. Talk about deluded.
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• #127250
TBF he has a point. Winners of the European Cup in that era were Steua Bucharest, PSV and Porto. Hardly names to roll off the tongue in a list of great sides. They'd have been eclipsed by the AC Milan teams from 88 onwards, but......
Because all our best players fucked off...
Lineker
Steven
Stephens
Gray
Mountfield
Bracewell
5yrs is a long time in football and by the time the ban was lifted we were wank with a shell of that '85 team