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How off-road? Any reason for panniers over a bikepacking-style set up? The latter keeps the bike fun to ride on the more technical stuff...
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I think for uk weekend off-road adventures then bikepacking style would be great, I am not convinced that for mainly road, long distance stuff my ortliebs on a rack would be bettered for space and convenience. Plus I have some nice panniers already and the bike packing stuff seems quite expensive for what it is.
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My plan is to do quite a long road tour in Europe late summer/autunm, only really going off-road to find secluded wild camping spots really. Then be able to use the bike when I get home for some more off-road stuff in the UK, at which point I could invest in some bikepacking stuff if necessary.
Tababa
Hello functional experts. I am looking at building myself an adventure type bike, one I can use off-road for weekend excursions in the Peak and Scotland, but also for some mostly road, long distance touring of several months in europe. Key requirement is to be cheap and solid really, was thinking maybe an Inbred 29er and getting a fork with rack mounts from surly or somewhere, drawbacks being a new inbred is not THAT cheap for what it is, and with surly fork it would weigh a metric ton.
Another option is a possibly quite cheap second hand Genesis fortitude adventure frameset. Looks nice and 725 tubes should cut the weight slightly. the main thing I am worried about is the 69.5 head angle, when loaded on the front (probably lowrider with panniers) would it have horrible handling and I'd be totally unable to ever take my hands of the bars etc? Also I would need to get an alfine 11 for it or something but I am quite excited by that idea.
I don't really have a budget, more looking for value for what I do spend, usually I am pretty keen to buy second hand, and would prefer frame or frameset only as I have a big parts bin. What else should I be looking at?