• surly nice or blackburn outpost? i quite like the fact that the surly is steel, and the has a 10kg higher carrying capacity (that I will probably never use), but, it's good to know its there

  • The Blackburn rack is as flexy as a wet noodle. Really poor product IMHO. The Surly one is quite heavy but is a great rack and looks the boss

  • Bit extreme... The top connector allows mounting in locations that could induce more overhanging, and compromise rigidity. I put mine in (I think) a well balanced position, fire what I'll ever use it for, it's definitely stiff enough.
    12kg was fine, I only suggested that 20, as the announced maximum, seemed a bit optimistic...

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