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  • You didn't say "happy", you said "force for good". I see happy people everywhere, you haven't convinced me that "religion is a force for good in communities for vast numbers of moderate people"

    I also see lots of empty churches, when, according to your figures, half the population should be in them.

    Back to schools - I cannot accept that pupils of faith schools are "better" (educated / rounded / nicer / perceptive / happier) than pupils of secular schools. So I don't see why they should exist.

  • I'm with you. I go round to my brother's place (his kids are at a faith school) and there is a picture on the fridge with the name of his kid inside a heart that says 'Jesus loves you best.' WTF? Seriously! These seemingly innocuous events can cause serious confusion in a child. Jesus loves me best? What about Mum and Dad? This is a 6 yar old, their minds are like putty, dont think I didn't say anything to my brother! Of course, the religious of all creeds think they have a monopoly on morality and without faith in a higher being the world would fall to shit... well that hasn't worked out to well for them in the past and it isn't now. Decent law abiding Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Pagans etc would continue to be good law abiding people if they were secular... the scary thing is that it is their faith that can make them do awful things in the name of religion...

    It's an emotive topic, which in itself is strange but there we go.

  • pupils of faith schools are "better" (educated / rounded / nicer / perceptive / happier) than pupils of secular schools.

    Possibly the most egregiously facile thing I've read this week.

  • according to your figures>

    They're not my figures. I'm interested you say you only see empty churches, where do you live? Where I live in south london there are 4 or 5 busy churches in the immediate area, and I don't have to travel far to find mosques.

    I cannot accept that pupils of faith schools are "better" (educated / rounded / nicer / perceptive / happier) than pupils of secular schools. So I don't see why they should exist.

    I never said they were better, they are just different.

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