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  • VOCAL MINORITY FFS.

    Okey dokey, lets apply the standard prejudice test:

    "jews don't even pay road tax", "jews should get to the side of the road" etc.

    If that was written as widely as criticisms of cyclists qua cyclists, what do you think the response would be? Where is the criticism of people who deny the rights and advocate violence against mums, dads, sons, daughters, friends, colleagues etc. just because they are on a bike? Society as a whole has very little problem with this it would appear.

    This is what you are saying about motorists ... Pot and Kettle mate.

    No, I was quoting you. You said that in order for me (as a cyclist) to be respected by motorists, other cyclists need to start behaving responsibly. You stated in your own words that motorists display an outgroup homogeneity bias against cyclists.

    EDIT:

    If you want to been seen better than them and don't want those stupid complaints then all of us have to be better otherwise you can't claim any sort of moral high ground.

    I want to be treated as an individual and my right to use the road safely to be respected, irrespective of the actions of other cyclists. I want to know that if someone drives dangerously and knocks me off my bike that the law (and juries) will act to punish them, rather than acquitting them because of the actions of other cyclists that I've never met. Can you agree that I should have that right? Can you agree that my rights should not me degraded simply because other people misbehave?

    EDIT #2

    Your vocal minority argument is also bullshit because it assumes that there is a clear divide between people who bash cyclists and everyone else who, you imply, have no negative feelings towards cyclists at all. It's perfectly possible for someone to feel a mild antipathy towards cyclists that they would never publish or even verbalise, but that would impair them from acting in an impartial way on a jury.

  • No, I was quoting you. You said that in order for me (as a cyclist) to be respected by motorists, other cyclists need to start behaving responsibly. You stated in your own words that motorists display an outgroup homogeneity bias against cyclists.

    I was replying to this

    That is exactly one cyclist being damned for tha actions of another, even if they've never met them.

    Replace the word cyclist for motorist ...

    Besides if a vast majority of cyclists ride like dicks, it is easy for someone to assume that every cyclist rides like a dick. Yes guilt by association is shitty, but it is going to happen unfortunately unless majority doesn't behave like that.

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