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  • I'm definitely not a #buyer but had enough dodgy moments on rim brake bikes to want to try discs when they became readily available on road bikes. I built up a Kinesis 4S disc and I can honestly say the difference is like night and day. There's an improvement in the dry, but they really shine when the weather turns grim. I'll never buy another rim-braked roadie.

  • Lots of factors here.

    Performance isnt everything. And this statement means different things to us plebs vs the pros.

    For the plebs I'd say mmmmmmaybe blaming rim brakes is a user error.

    For pros I reckon its a case of 'if it aint broke why fix it?'

    Bottomline is most dont need disc brakes on road bikes; plebs and pros.

    And there is still long way to go for them in terms of tech. In terms of design they are still an afterthought.

    This on the other hand ..

  • a DSS1 on the other hand

  • For pros I reckon its a case of 'if it aint broke why fix it?'

    I don't think it's that - Pros do adapt to new tech for marginal gains. 8/9/10/11 spd, clipless pedals, electronic groupsets, wider rims/tyres. If disc brakes came without two additional cutting edges added to the bike they'd be (slowly) all over them.

  • "Blaming rim brakes"? Blaming them for what?

    Blaming disc brakes for launching them over the bars?

    Disc brakes save expensive rims and especially so in this damp shitty fuckin' country. No matter which way you cut it, disc brakes stop better. On long descents they save hand fatigue - hence picking them for my Ultra bike. On stuff like audax in 25% downhill on shitty lanes I'm really looking forward to disc brakes actually slowly my fat arse down instead of that gritty "oh half my brake pads have gone now" grind down hill.

    Road racing in a bunch - I'm still not sure. What if the rotors were shielded and ALL riders were using discs? Would it be the big issue with the riders still?

    Afterthought? Really? CenterLock, flat-mount calipers, integrated hydro/di2 shifters? They're probably more aero than that caliper brake you pictured :P

  • Bottomline is most dont need disc brakes on road bikes; plebs and pros.

    If you have to says this, then clearly you haven't ridden.

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