• So much this. I don't know a single driver who has never broken the speed limit, and most don't even appear to understand that an amber light at traffic lights is a stop light (unless it is unsafe to stop). As such it appears to me despite drivers saying "all cyclists jump red lights" it is actually the case that "all drivers jump red lights and routinely speed".

    These juries judge people by their own piss fucking poor driving standards, rather than the actual rules of the road.

  • Absolutely. There seems to be an understanding that the law doesn't apply to you whilst in a car - speeding, mobile phone usage, red light jumping and illegal parking are all commonplace.

    When laws are enforced (speed cameras, traffic wardens) the driver feels aggrieved and victimized rather than feeling guilty for breaking the law.

  • There are threads on this forum where cyclists are basically feeling aggrieved when the law is enforced. Drivers aren't the only people to do this.

    When laws are enforced (speed cameras, traffic wardens) the driver feels aggrieved and victimized rather than feeling guilty for breaking the law.

    Yes because there is a feeling that speed cameras and traffic wardens are there to catch you out and raise money rather than actually catch dangerous drivers (like drunk drivers and those that drive at excessive speed). It not about flouting the law, it is people criticizing the validity of it because they don't believe it is fair. Whether that is true or not is besides the point and the accusatory stance you guys seem to take will reinforce their views.

    Realistically in most situation going slightly faster than the speed limit or a bit of dodgy parking on a high-street isn't dangerous and the penalties are reflected by how severely you are prosecuted.

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