Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

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  • I picked up a vintage 531 track bike the other day and now starts the practically impossible task of trying to identifying it.

    I bought it from the original owner son, who informed me it use to be his fathers track bike, before it languished in the garage for a fair few year. The father decided to have it restored at Argos cycles in Bristol over 20 years ago and used it for a short time to commute in and out of Gloucester. It's been sat in his shed for a long time around 20 years as his father past away.

    It's beautifully made with campagnolo track drop outs (campagnolo stamped on the inside of both rear dropouts), 531 tubing, 27.2 seat posts and beautiful lug work, which I can't seem to identify. It's has a 4 digit frame number on the chain ring side of the bottom of the bottom bracket. It's 110 spacing at the rear and although advertised as being a 700c frame set, it came with a 700c in the front with a 700x20c tubular tire (with masses of clearance) and a 27" rear with a 27x1-1/8 tire with about 2mm clearance either side of the tire in the chain stays. It has a curve seat stay bridge which is undrilled and a curved chainstay bridge too. It's got mudguard eyelets and It's running British threads as far as I can tell too.

    Although it's stickered up as an Agros, the original owner's son didn't belive it was an Argos, just restored there, and to be honest I think it is too, surely it's to old to be an Argos, the question is... what might it be?

    Anyway this is the bike, although it wasn't 100% as advertised, by the seller, interms or wheel size and general condition. It is perfect for what I want and I kinda like it!!!

    I should add, it's currently sporting a 27x1-1/4 rear wheel with 27x1-1/8 rear tyre and a 700c from wheel with 20c tubular tyre... Hence the sizeable gap between the front wheel and the fork crown.

  • I know that the chances of anyone seeing this so long after the post but...... To answer the empson bike frames ....
    My dad and his two brothers made them my family are top riders and my cousin Gary empson holds the world recold for I think it's 21 miles time trial... All my family race my dad was a pattern maker at a steal works in Lynn called Cooper roller bearing along with my uncle's. They hand built the frames and most had campagnola parts ... If that's how it's spelt. Others ran shimano and so on .. I never got in to raceing my self .. but they are well made and I have seen one on eBay make good money .. I my self don't own one .. my dad has a red one with all campagnola parts on and the rims are from the olympic bike from 1978 I think was the year ... Yet he says he will cut it up and melt it down as it was his bike and his bike only ... Strange I know....

  • I also have a completely unidentifiable restoration by Argos - they seem to be good at not crediting the original builder

  • Hetchins¿

    Carlton?

  • I'm pretty certain it's not a Hetchins....the headtube lugs do look very similar to ephgrave no. 1 lugs though...I'll see if I can find something similar...
    Have a glance at this...

    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=301913069139&globalID=EBAY-GB

    Obviously, yours doesn't have the 'lollipops' on the seat stay caps, but the 4th photo is where I think yours looks similar.....it might not be, but yours is a quality frame, either way!

  • Isn't the tubing info on the stickers?

  • Crazeee bike: a lo-pro with canti and rack mounts!

    Some great work on the lugs etc.

    Love the font too.

    PS Yes, the decal clearly states what the tubing is.

    PS Get your mate to start a Current Projects thread: it's a very interesting bike/builder.

  • Can anyone help identify this frame?

    Lightweight, distinctive seat post cluster, wrap around seat stay, nice enough for bits to be chromed, campag drop outs front and campag track ends, not drilled for brakes, tight clearances, stamped BB casing with and serial number 3032780.

    Any hints appreciated.



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  • possibly Rourke, contact them with pics and number

  • Cheers River - email sent. Similar emails also sent to Geoffrey Butler, Henry Burton and now Rourke. Fingers crossed eh.

    Not a Rourke according to the dude from Rourke. Next suggestion please...

  • Anyone have an idea what frame manufacturer is?


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  • Check Massey Ferguson, Laverda or other tractor manufacturers: that's "agricultural".

  • harsh!

    ...but fair

    @bazschmaz - other some-time wrap over seat stay artists in uk circles - dave yates, bob Jackson. you could also ask lee cooper

  • There's a cheese grater on the back too

  • anyone know the name of this fork crown. Have found mention of it on the NJS Export page. Wondering whether anyone knew the actual name?

    far right I think:


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  • Olmo use them as well:

  • @HHC, what about this: http://www.framebuilding.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/Cast%20Fork%20Crowns.htm

    LC14. Lightweight hollow design.
    Weight: 140gr. 51.5mm c to c.
    30mm. wheel clearance.

    S-LC14. Above in stainless steel.

    LC32. As above but with 7° rake
    built in for straight blades.

    Also this: https://big-forest-frameworks.myshopify.com/collections/all/fork-crown-25-4mm

    LC14

    Appears to be called LC14/LC32, depending on the rake angle (LC14 Degree: 0,
    LC32 Degree: 7
    )

  • Sweet,

    Thankyoi, didn't think to look for them in there.

  • I'm thinking about purchasing this frameset incl. the front wheel. If you're wondering: in case I buy it, I'll build it up as intended with gears. Seems to be another mystery lo pro, any clues what it might be? No pantos and I haven't seen the frame in person, so all I have are these photos:

    • Tubing is columbus Cromor
    • The geometry with the double slope in both the top tube and the seattube was build by various manufacturers e.g. concorde, daccordi... But the concorde had the shifter bosses aero style on top of the downtube and the daccordi had pantos on all of their frames afaik.
    • Maybe the lugs give a hint? What strikes me is the following: the top tube seems to be fillet brazed onto the seatpost-lug while all other joints seem to be lugged. You can see this on the last 4th and last photo..

    This would be my first lo pro, so any (expert) input is welcome!
    Thanks in advance :)


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  • Rychtarski can make that fork for you, got one on mine

  • Do you know how much they go for. Was thinking about it.

  • I don't, sorry

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