Tub user comments...
"newer, cutting-edge carbon clinchers like the Zipp Firecrest series can more seamlessly integrate the clincher rim without resorting to an aerodynamic compromise. And moreover, the Firecrest hoops seem highly immune to pinch flats, perhaps because of their much wider rim bed. And the convenience of these things is quite compelling. I'm highly considering going back to clinchers because of these wheels." http://www.tririg.com/articles.php?id=2011_07_31_Clinchers_or_Tubulars
Clinchers beating tubs...
The very spreadsheet you link to (Tom Anhalt's tests) shows two clinchers at the top of the list: http://microcosm.app/out/b6bdh
"At least 150g difference per wheel is not "weight weenie"."
The weight difference btw clincher and tubular for 808FC wheels is 85 grams. Weight Weenie.
"These days most races allow for wheel changes"
So your "Puncture resistance? All of these soft features come together to define if something is "faster"." point is moot anyway, unless we're not talking about races, which case my point stands.
"112 km/h?" No, "70kph". brodouevenunitsofmeasurement?
"In amateur road races I've seen clinchers leave their rims..." Yeah, with the wheel sideways mid-crash.
But since wheel swaps are allowed in races and we're talking about punctures, it must be training rides we're talking about, in which case I can inflate my new tube back to what it was when I left the house and it will operate as expected whereas tub-rider now has a poorly-glued/taped replaced tub on their wheel. Clinchers please.
"how 'bot when the shops are closed. I've ridden trashed tubular tyres home. When my clincher rear blew last month I walked the the 10+ miles home. I would have had no qualms riding the bicycle home if it had been a tubular tyre."
Spare tube and/or patch kit vs. getting home with a decidedly second-hand tyre/rim. Clinchers please.
Latex are faster. My point stands. Latex tubes please.
Tub user comments...
"newer, cutting-edge carbon clinchers like the Zipp Firecrest series can more seamlessly integrate the clincher rim without resorting to an aerodynamic compromise. And moreover, the Firecrest hoops seem highly immune to pinch flats, perhaps because of their much wider rim bed. And the convenience of these things is quite compelling. I'm highly considering going back to clinchers because of these wheels."
http://www.tririg.com/articles.php?id=2011_07_31_Clinchers_or_Tubulars
Clinchers beating tubs...
The very spreadsheet you link to (Tom Anhalt's tests) shows two clinchers at the top of the list: http://microcosm.app/out/b6bdh
"At least 150g difference per wheel is not "weight weenie"."
The weight difference btw clincher and tubular for 808FC wheels is 85 grams. Weight Weenie.
"These days most races allow for wheel changes"
So your "Puncture resistance? All of these soft features come together to define if something is "faster"." point is moot anyway, unless we're not talking about races, which case my point stands.
"112 km/h?" No, "70kph". brodouevenunitsofmeasurement?
"In amateur road races I've seen clinchers leave their rims..." Yeah, with the wheel sideways mid-crash.
But since wheel swaps are allowed in races and we're talking about punctures, it must be training rides we're talking about, in which case I can inflate my new tube back to what it was when I left the house and it will operate as expected whereas tub-rider now has a poorly-glued/taped replaced tub on their wheel. Clinchers please.
"how 'bot when the shops are closed. I've ridden trashed tubular tyres home. When my clincher rear blew last month I walked the the 10+ miles home. I would have had no qualms riding the bicycle home if it had been a tubular tyre."
Spare tube and/or patch kit vs. getting home with a decidedly second-hand tyre/rim. Clinchers please.
Latex are faster. My point stands. Latex tubes please.