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• #12377
Is it time to start calling out entire clubs?
Is there someone to complain to in British Cycling about the general conduct of club members when they are generally awful, rude, disrespectful and inconsiderate? (Specific examples available.)
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• #12378
Email the club secretary.
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• #12379
They're part of the problem. Overly aggressive and dismissive in general.
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• #12380
This dunwich dynamo is going to be insane.
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• #12381
Dulwich Paragon?
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• #12382
I'd say it's about 50/50 in my experience. Name and shame? I'm on the committee of a club so would be glad to know if someone is being a dick in our colours.
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• #12383
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• #12384
If the club is BC affiliated start with the general club enquiries details: 0161 274 2010 | clubs@britishcycling.org.uk
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• #12385
People shouldn't be behaving in a manner that isn't good for the club. But if there's no video footage or photos it's one word against the other. A lot of such positions are for unpaid volunteers and the crap will land with the person dealing with the complaints. Then they have to deal with the to and fro and they yesbutno and the cyclists possibly giving off to them.
Which is no reason for them to reject complaints, or be aggressive, but it can explain some of the dismissive. Make it super easy for them if you can to pull the cyclist that's been a Very Naughty Boy/Girl.
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• #12386
My Club, Dulwich Paragon are pretty good at calling out dick cyclists who've been reported to the club, generally confirming that their membership will be terminated if they are identified. Dickhead bloke (usually blokes) in Dulwich kit on a black bike rarely narrows it down enough though. So report with good description if it's one of ours!
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• #12387
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• #12388
Did your club ever read the comments after the statement they put out?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/DunwichDynamo/10154310223084012/
Will you be attending the next kidical mass like it's a sportive?
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• #12389
'The cyclist."
It's a club-wide issue and certainly not limited to one or two. The club just seems to foster a bad attitude among its members and it's from the top down. It's genuinely unpleasant to meet them on the road and they're rude to cyclists, motorists, ramblers and anyone else that has the misfortune to come across them.
I've stopped to apologise to people for them on the behalf of cyclists on quite a few occasions and I've also been physically threatened and verbally abused to many times to mention and one kind chap bent my wing mirror in to get past in traffic.
Quite a few other people have mentioned it and I often hear grumblings at cafe stops from other clubs.
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• #12390
Is the Dun Run just a dick measuring contest these days then? I haven't done it in a few years and last time there were a couple of quick groups, but none of this 'hold your line' nonsense. I rode with a friendly club for a bit (had their kit designed by Rapha? No idea who theh were though) at a decent pace but it was all very pleasant.
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• #12391
fewer fairy lights
(well everyone else is doing it)
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• #12392
I did it in 2013 and 2015 and didn't notice anything too bad either time. Very friendly, mixed range of abilities, speeds, experience etc. Pretty friendly bunch.
Of course, you get the odd knobber. Some people were pretty fast but I don't recall and big groups. Having said that we probably left quite late(?) both times (after 9:30)
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• #12393
Maybe that's what happened to me. I was there in 2013 and 2014 but stopped at all the pubs so perhaps the aggro groups were long gone.
@greenhell unless I'm talking about less 'fairy lights'.
Edit: was it 13 and 14? God, maybe 12 and 13.
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• #12394
^ you're probably right.
i just wanted to fit in.
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• #12395
It did stick out when I wrote it. Either is acceptable, depending on if I'm talking about actual fairy lights or the concept of fairy lights. I hope I'm right, considering I teach for a living...
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• #12396
I remember the Paragon from 2009 (the only Dun Run I've bothered with). No silly "hold your line" or close passes from any riders (regardless of club), but the Paragon were very visible in their kit and their MO for completing the ride seemed to consist of riding fast between junctions and then stopping en masse usually blocking most of the road whilst someone looked at the routesheet to see where to go next. As I was using a GPS (and riding a bit slower as I was riding back to London) I didn't need to stop and so they continued this annoying leapfrog and block the road shite for 20 or 30 kilometers despite me telling them to stop blocking the fucking road at each and every fucking junction.
By 4am only two out of the 15 or so had functioning lights, but that's probably a greater percentage than the Dun Runners as a whole. Other people's lights don't really bother me though.
Club riders often forget how to ride amongst others as they often assume everyone else is like them. One of my biggest gripes about riding round Richmond Park is that the club riders pass so bloody close. They may be happy with group riding and bumping shoulders/etc, but they shouldn't expect every other rider to be happy with it, even if they look like they might be used to it (at times I could pass as a club cyclist).
However, the cars that pass me the closest in Richmond Park more often than not have expensive road bikes on the roof or in the boot. Cunts.
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• #12397
That's no normal "I'm a volunteer I'm not too bothered by a complaint" behaviour.
If they're a rotten bunch perhaps British cycling can do something or their club insurer may want to know?
Not your job apologising to others, I don't see motorists apologising every time another one jumps a red light :)
Edit perhaps other pissed off ppl want to sign an open letter or letter to oversight? Name n shame.
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• #12398
Close encounter on a Sustrans ped/biek path, I needed to go right, hence middle of lane bit got a rather fast pass on the right... It's good I always shoulder check. Why do ppl race on shared paths?
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• #12399
Why do ppl race on shared paths?
Because Strava.
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• #12400
some soapy stravamuting titwank ploughing through a pedestrian crossing with about 50 kids on it outside the ROH. told him to take a fucking bus in future and got called a cunt for my troubles. on here?
Full kit guy turning left at Blackfriars. No speed reduction and no hand signal until too late makes me think it's okay to start crossing. The chump speeds behind me and blows a whistle at me. Who cycles with a whistle? I hope he hits a pothole and swallows it.