A question for vegetarians

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12206669/Long-term-vegetarian-diet-changes-human-DNA-raising-risk-of-cancer-and-heart-disease.html?sf23340720=1

Torygraph but I found this moderately interesting.

Just to be clear, I'm not interested in goading vegetarians, I just think this is an interesting development in how we understand diet and food. Notably there's an absence of saying how much meat you would need to eat before you mitigate this risk.

Eating red meat gives you cancer

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/red-meat.aspx

Seafood gives you cancer. Seafood loving Japan has the highest instance of gastric cancer in the world.

Alchohol gives you cancer
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/alcohol-and-cancer

I have a problem when articles dont site sources / peer reviewed medical science.

Many vegetarians also struggle to get enough protein, iron, vitamin D, vitamin B12 and calcium which are essential for health. One study found that vegetarians had approximately five percent lower bone-mineral density (BMD) than non-vegetarians.

"One study" Ok - what study? How many people participated? How old is the study? What was the demographic? Was it done at base line? Etc.. No data. Just swinging 'facts' around with a rusty spoon.

This is real science literature - happening now. Unbiased and factual. Objective reasoning. What we should be listening to in regards to nutrition.

nutritionfacts.org.

Yep, absolutely. And really the key to all of these things is that the escalated risk is always attached to excess. However, this is the first time I've seen credible claims about something that isn't excess related.

OK, that's fair.

However the tenor of the article isn't one of some barely science savvy journo leaping on a report and doom-mongering about the deadly dangers of some foodstuff that is then propped up as classic and essential to our national identity. Don't worry, I'm sure the Daily Mail will be along to parlay this into something properly sensationalistic.

Yep

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3428639/Woman-shed-60lbs-carb-heavy-vegan-diet-says-slimming-following-POTATO-cleanse-allows-eat-fries-hash-browns.html

So is she just losing muscle mass and fat due to no protein and a calorie deficit created by small amounts of potatoes?

I think we just need to accept that anything remotely enjoyable will give you cancer and move on.

Water gives you cancer

Everyone I know who has had cancer had a large proportion of water in their body, drank the poisonous stuff and even bathed in it.

Comparing meat eaters in kansas with vegetarians in small area in India. Not really a sufficient comparison probably not enough genetic diversity in India to say that the higher degree of cancers is due to vegetarianism. Seriously bad sampling.

But what about water?

Bacon = class one carcinogen

Kale = worse according to DM

"One study" Ok - what study? How many people participated? How old is the study? What was the demographic? Was it done at base line? Etc.. No data. Just swinging 'facts' around with a rusty spoon.

Indeed. The press do like headlining these one off studies that 'prove' 'facts'