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  • Nobody has any right to not be insulted by anyone, even by racists and bigots.

    I think this is something that I fundamentally disagree with.

    And this isn't in some namby-pamby cotton wool and coddling ideal that everyone must be lovely to each other.

    This is from the perspective that if you don't have a right not to be insulted by someone then we, as a society, consider racist, facist or otherwise bigoted abuse to be both acceptable and reasonable behaviour and should held as normal. You're welcome to believe that to be true but I don't think it is, or ever should be.

    If we do take that as a truism, that bigoted abuse of people is acceptable and normal, when does the line get drawn? When do we say that someone has gone too far? Does it have to get a bit sweary? Do taboos like the N-word have to be breached? Does someone have to be physically hit?, Do they have to bleed? Be hospitalised? Die? Or how about if a collective group of bigots are all a little bit abusive towards an individual? None of them singularly cross a severity line, is it all just a matey jolly wheeze and the victim is to blame if they, for some crazy reason, feel that the insults are compound due to their multiplicity?

  • This is from the perspective that if you don't have a right not to be insulted by someone then we, as a society, consider racist, facist or otherwise bigoted abuse to be both acceptable and reasonable behaviour and should held as normal.

    This is a false dichotomy. It's not binary, and you can't draw that conlusion from that premise.

    If we do take that as a truism, that bigoted abuse of people is acceptable and normal, when does the line get drawn?

    You're conflating abuse & insult, irrespective of the fact that it is not a truism.

  • This is a false dichotomy. It's not binary, and you can't draw that conlusion from that premise.

    So what is it then? Because I can't see how not having a right to not be insulted doesn't essentially condone and normalise abuse. How exactly are you reconciling that this isn't the case?

    And yes, I am conflating abuse and insult. I accept that my opinion is probably very biased on that though. Working in domestic abuse it's, perhaps, difficult not to see how insults are a form of abuse. If you want to expand on why you think they aren't then I would be quite interested to hear what you have to say.

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